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Re: The Real Lexus Numbers in Japan [esf] by laurasdada
Apr 13, 2008 (1:45 pm)
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Replying to: esf (Apr 13, 2008 11:46 am)

Yes, indeed. I spent a bit of time in the S5 at the NEIAS. I also stood between the two S5s (one black, one white) and the R8. Hurt my neck looking back and forth!
 
Yes, my current list for potential next car:
 
Audi A/S5
Jag XF/XK
Next Gen TL?
BMW 3
And more...
 
Of course, a lot depends upon our economy and my/wife's employment situation...
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Re: The Real Lexus Numbers in Japan [esf] by atlas7
Apr 13, 2008 (2:51 pm)
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Replying to: esf (Apr 13, 2008 11:46 am)

Most beautiful cars in the world?
 
Ok, I know beauty is in the eye of the beholder...IMO, while the Audi S5 is a "handsome" car, it is not in the same category as the Aston Martin, Maserati, and Jag convertible...IMO, These 3 cars are exotic, sexy, and are much better designed than the Audi, but the S5 is a nice looking car.
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Hi by bmlexus
Apr 13, 2008 (4:20 pm)
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and the R8. Hurt my neck looking back and forth! LOL
 
As for my current list for potential next car well it depends on many things but my list are.
1.X5 had many issues a risky buy
2.X6 new model new engine never know the first year model
3.RX reliable but old next gen on the way
5.cayenne always heard its the best handling but ???
4.FX just had a redesign which is yet to see in person infiniti is definitely getting better
 
By the way a new x6 just came next to my street in person IMO is even better than a aston vanquish which is also next to my street whenever i see the x6 I just keep looking and looking and...
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Re: The Real Lexus Numbers in Japan [esf] by lexusguy
Apr 13, 2008 (4:27 pm)
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Replying to: esf (Apr 13, 2008 11:27 am)

Their wood trim is all real, while it was obvious to me where the fake wood was in our previous RX.
 
The RX has never had fake wood. I don't think Lexus has ever used plastic wood. If they have, it would've been in early versions of the ES only.
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Re: The Real Lexus Numbers in Japan [esf] by lexusguy
Apr 13, 2008 (4:29 pm)
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Replying to: esf (Apr 13, 2008 11:46 am)

Most beautiful cars in the world?
 
Ah, you're killin' me with these. The S5 is a great looking car, but I don't like that color.
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Re: Acura [dewey] by lexusguy
Apr 13, 2008 (4:32 pm)
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Replying to: dewey (Apr 13, 2008 12:15 pm)

Well it's about time that they did this. TOO LATE in my opinon.
 
I'm not so sure. Unlike the RL which has been a big fat dud since its introduction in '96, the TL has something of a loyal following. I don't really think the new TL is going to pull in BMW buyers in droves, but I'm sure it will do reasonably well. That said, I very much doubt I'm going to like the looks.
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Re: The Real Lexus Numbers in Japan [atlas7] by laurasdada
Apr 13, 2008 (5:28 pm)
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Replying to: atlas7 (Apr 13, 2008 2:51 pm)

While the S5 may not appear as "exotic" as the others, have you seen it in the flesh? Pix don't do it justice... But, I think I'm agreeing with you as far as defining the looks. At a glance, you may see an S5 and think, "Nice, handsome car." But on closer examination, it (to me) does have some exotic lines...
 
But, the AM, Maser and Jag, just one look is all it takes!
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Re: The Real Lexus Numbers in Japan [esf] by louiswei
Apr 14, 2008 (7:54 am)
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Replying to: esf (Apr 13, 2008 11:27 am)

"made to look like aluminum"
 
It's called metallic finish. To me that's better than the all black and cheapo looking 3er center stack. Oh okay so 3er's control is precise but not the IS? That I had another good laugh...
 
BMWs also use simple, elegant, effective gauges.
 
You forgot to mention "last century"... Lexus also makes simple, elegant and effective gauges but without making them look so outdated.
 
By the way, all wood trims in RX, as matter of fact, all Lexus cars/SUVs are real.
 
What useful luxury feature does the LX have that the LC does not?
 
Good gawd man, gadgets and wood trims alone do no make a luxury car! Next time in the auto show make sure you compare the interior material quality (leather, center stack/console finish, door panels...) between the two then you'll see the difference is bigger than you realized. Maybe those differences do not justify the $20k premium TO YOU but I am sure all the LX owners out there would disagree with you.
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Re: The Real Lexus Numbers in Japan [esf] by louiswei
Apr 14, 2008 (8:03 am)
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Replying to: esf (Apr 13, 2008 11:31 am)

but in materials quality you're simply incorrect.
 
My "material dependent" ranking was taking both the material quality and design into consideration, not just the materials.
 
With the materials alone my ranking would be:
 
1. 3er / IS (tie) - 3er tied IS here with the utilization of real aluminum.
2. C / A4 - I haven't seen the new A4 in person so I am using the old A4 as my reference
3. G - class competitive now except for hard plastic on door panels
4. TL - Need a real wood trim and better door panel materials
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Re: The Real Lexus Numbers in Japan [laurasdada] by lovemyclk
Apr 14, 2008 (9:44 am)
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Replying to: laurasdada (Apr 13, 2008 5:28 pm)

Completely agree on the S5... especially the rear 3/4 view. Nice detailing on the front end as well. Interior has the ambience from an even more costly vehicle - nicely done, Audi. And this, from a pretty loyal BMW owner

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