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Replying to: lexusguy (Apr 12, 2008 10:17 am) My preference is for more symmetry and more of a one piece intergrated design. Both the Audi and the Taurus sort of cut the passenger side off, and the driver side and the passenger side are completely different with no flow. To me this is a jarring incongruity. This is where the similarity between the two lies to my eye. As far as the pricing of the RL, they are being sold at least 10 grand below msrp now so they might as well price them there. Then they would not have to deal with the discounting stigma. Reading on the Acura RL pricing thread they are saying about $39,500. for the base and about $41,500 for the tech. IMO that is a great car at that price.
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Replying to: houdini1 (Apr 11, 2008 1:51 pm) This one is interesting to me as well. I got my TSX as a place holder in case anyone brings a really good, moderate size diesel to the U.S. in the next few years. By then the C will have shown whether or not the reliability gremlins have been put to rest, and with a nice diesel. . . OTOH, I put 471 very pleasant miles on my TSX today, partially through the whole length of Death Valley and returned 32.8 mpg. When I stopped for lunch, with ~300 miles on for the day, I was at 34.7. If the current spread continues between diesel and gasoline (even premium, which I use), I'll need at least 40 mpg to have something comparable. Either way, BMW, Audi, Merc & Audi are starting to bring diesels over. I'll be watching, and it sounds like you will be too.
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Replying to: houdini1 (Apr 12, 2008 3:42 pm) Ah, I see what you're saying. I actually didn't like Audi's new interior style when it originally debuted in the A6, partially because I really liked the flowing,symmetrical previous A6 interior and I felt it seemed cold compared to that, and partially because it reminded me a lot of the previous gen Lexus GS, which I always thought was lousy on the inside. After spending a lot of time in the A6 though, I've come around on the interior (and the single frame grille as well). I like its focus on the driver and the fact that it doesn't go overboard with weird shapes and odd angles like the 5 series. I think the new Audi look makes the symmetrical lines of an interior like the E-class look boring and dated. I just don't think a $40K RL will work when the TL Type-S currently stickers at $38K, and I'm sure the next TL is going to get more expensive. Instead, Acura should build a car that is actually worth $50K. Something that looks more interesting than dishwater, and offers real luxury instead of just gizmo-overload.
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Replying to: cdnpinhead (Apr 12, 2008 5:14 pm) We'll just have to wait and see. 
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Replying to: houdini1 (Apr 12, 2008 6:12 pm) Exactly. I fell in love with the new diesels over seven years ago in Europe. Those cars aren't available even yet over here, and when they are the advantage may be gone. Thank you, California. |
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Replying to: lexusguy (Apr 12, 2008 5:56 pm) Nearly every possible dash combination has been tried over and over. Car interiors are like neckties. Wide, narrow, paisley, back to wide again. Everything old is new again so old and dated or new and fresh are both meaningless to me.
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Replying to: louiswei (Apr 10, 2008 7:22 am) I wouldn't argue that 335i beats it in performance and handling but material quality? That I had a good laugh... Honestly, look closer. All Lexuses have center stacks that are covered in thin silver plastic, made to look like aluminum. BMW uses high-quality, soft-touch black plastic, and all of the controls are precise. BMWs also use simple, elegant, effective gauges. Their wood trim is all real, while it was obvious to me where the fake wood was in our previous RX. Their aluminum is also real. Even the driving position is superior. Take a look at the LC then you'll realized that thing can't compare with the LX in terms of material quality and luxurious features. I disagree. Look beyond the wood trim. What useful luxury feature does the LX have that the LC does not? I wouldn't be able to justify buying one. The Toyota Land Cruiser is quite comfortable, thanks. Yes you do, with a passion, just admit it... I truly don't. They're just not my cup of tea. BTW, I have to say it would be very hard for me to pick between an IS350 and G35, now that I have thought about it. They're both fantastic sedans. And if you didn't catch it in the Edmunds article, the new A4 (Avant) is absolutely gorgeous, too! There is a white A5 coupe that just landed on my street, in fact. It drives by my house several times a day, and I always have to stare. What a beauty. '08 BMW X5 4.8i • '06 Audi A3 2.0T DSG • '05 Audi S4 Cabriolet
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Replying to: louiswei (Apr 10, 2008 7:45 am) 1. A4 - everything is perfection. From the simple ergonomics to the precise construction to the top-notch wood, it doesn't get any better, at this price. 2. 3 Series - all business, but in a good way. You won't find any cheap plastic here. 3. C-Class / IS (tie) - the C is built like a small tank, but the materials are a bit too somber. Conversely, the IS's materials are complex and artful, but the construction isn't as good. 5. TL - nice, but it's fallen a bit behind. 6. G - also nice. None of the cars in this class have cheap interiors any more, which is great, but the G can't quite keep up. '08 BMW X5 4.8i • '06 Audi A3 2.0T DSG • '05 Audi S4 Cabriolet
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Replying to: 2001gs430 (Apr 10, 2008 9:42 am) '08 BMW X5 4.8i • '06 Audi A3 2.0T DSG • '05 Audi S4 Cabriolet |
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Replying to: dewey (Apr 11, 2008 7:11 am) The difference being that the XKR also looks absolutely incredible on the street.  I saw my fourth XF today. I've only seen one SV8; this was a gray non-supercharged model. Nevertheless, I couldn't stop staring. Really fantastic looking car. I was just picturing a BRG XF SV8 in my mind, because that's what I would get. It's on my list. '08 BMW X5 4.8i • '06 Audi A3 2.0T DSG • '05 Audi S4 Cabriolet |
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