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Replying to: lexusguy (Apr 11, 2008 1:03 pm) The only thing wrong with the RL is that it is priced about 10 grand too much. If it had an msrp starting in the low 40's they would sell 3 times as many. Now they have to heavily discount them anyway and that gives them a bad image.
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Replying to: anthonyp (Apr 11, 2008 1:21 pm) You are one of the lucky people on this forum that has a home in Florida to escape winter weather. I probably need to consult you when I need more info on the Miami area. I have visited Miami/Ft Lauderdale about three years ago and I liked it a lot. My client was in Weston ( about 20 min east of Ft Lauderdale), where so many beautiful properties existed, the only thing is that it is a bit too close to the Everglade swamp where those big reptiles with big teeth actually hang out at the sides of the roads on a sunny day  I have also been to Tampa/Clear Water area where the area seems less diversified than Miami. My goal is to get a place within an hour drive of a major airport, on/near water front and major centers. I need to figure out what Floridian do to offset risks of Hurricane damages at reasonable costs (does location matter?). I've seen ads for brand new properties in the Ft Myers area for only around 200k which would be good for a cash purchase to avoid hassling with mortgage companies. Also, best of all, with a valid US address, I can buy high end cars at much more reasonable prices than what we Canadian currently have to put up with (go to the Import cars from the US thread to see what I mean). |
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Replying to: houdini1 (Apr 12, 2008 8:22 am) I have to tell you I'm looking at the new A4 and a 15 year old Taurus, and I'm really not seeing it. Could you point out how they are similar?   The question is, how do you get the RL to be 10 grand cheaper? Do you take away the AWD system? Do you take out the NAV and all the electronics? Cloth seats? How does that equal 1500 sales a month?
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Replying to: 2001gs430 (Apr 12, 2008 8:35 am)
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Replying to: lexusguy (Apr 11, 2008 7:11 pm) One thing that is not going to change for me is paying with a hundred dollar bill and getting a couple of twenties back--and feeling I was treated right-- No question I am not a person who plans the use of the car very efficiently, but I do walk alot either in Miami or Charleston...I think most people are using their cars for important things--like work---child raising--so these big purchases of fuel add up....I don`t have a clue to what is going to happen to change this situation we are in, but something will...Tony |
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Replying to: 2001gs430 (Apr 12, 2008 8:35 am) There are a lot of Germans and Canadians in the FT Myers area. I think that property in the U.S. is a good value right now with our weak dollar - take advantage while you can. Someday I may live there full time, if so I'll get rid of winter tires and SUV's forever! 
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Replying to: lexusguy (Apr 12, 2008 10:17 am) My preference is for more symmetry and more of a one piece intergrated design. Both the Audi and the Taurus sort of cut the passenger side off, and the driver side and the passenger side are completely different with no flow. To me this is a jarring incongruity. This is where the similarity between the two lies to my eye. As far as the pricing of the RL, they are being sold at least 10 grand below msrp now so they might as well price them there. Then they would not have to deal with the discounting stigma. Reading on the Acura RL pricing thread they are saying about $39,500. for the base and about $41,500 for the tech. IMO that is a great car at that price.
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Replying to: houdini1 (Apr 11, 2008 1:51 pm) This one is interesting to me as well. I got my TSX as a place holder in case anyone brings a really good, moderate size diesel to the U.S. in the next few years. By then the C will have shown whether or not the reliability gremlins have been put to rest, and with a nice diesel. . . OTOH, I put 471 very pleasant miles on my TSX today, partially through the whole length of Death Valley and returned 32.8 mpg. When I stopped for lunch, with ~300 miles on for the day, I was at 34.7. If the current spread continues between diesel and gasoline (even premium, which I use), I'll need at least 40 mpg to have something comparable. Either way, BMW, Audi, Merc & Audi are starting to bring diesels over. I'll be watching, and it sounds like you will be too.
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Replying to: houdini1 (Apr 12, 2008 3:42 pm) Ah, I see what you're saying. I actually didn't like Audi's new interior style when it originally debuted in the A6, partially because I really liked the flowing,symmetrical previous A6 interior and I felt it seemed cold compared to that, and partially because it reminded me a lot of the previous gen Lexus GS, which I always thought was lousy on the inside. After spending a lot of time in the A6 though, I've come around on the interior (and the single frame grille as well). I like its focus on the driver and the fact that it doesn't go overboard with weird shapes and odd angles like the 5 series. I think the new Audi look makes the symmetrical lines of an interior like the E-class look boring and dated. I just don't think a $40K RL will work when the TL Type-S currently stickers at $38K, and I'm sure the next TL is going to get more expensive. Instead, Acura should build a car that is actually worth $50K. Something that looks more interesting than dishwater, and offers real luxury instead of just gizmo-overload.
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Replying to: cdnpinhead (Apr 12, 2008 5:14 pm) We'll just have to wait and see. 
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