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Re: Things change [lexusguy] by hpowders
Apr 11, 2008 (7:21 pm)
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Replying to: lexusguy (Apr 11, 2008 7:14 pm)

"Just don't tell her she could use the exercise."
 
She can and I won't. LOL!!
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Re: Things change [lexusguy] by hpowders
Apr 11, 2008 (7:26 pm)
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Replying to: lexusguy (Apr 11, 2008 7:19 pm)

If you haven't already, check out page 9 of C&D, April 2008. Very sobering reading.
 
Big oil in the USA is prepared with every excuse in the book to make sure we continue to use what they want us to use.
 
Can help pass the time when sitting in the car patiently waiting for the wife to max out the credit card.
 
I have developed a talent in parking lots for reading with the left eye only. The right eye is always peripherally focused on "dinger alert." You guessed it: I always park with the driver's side next to an island.
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Re: Things change [hpowders] by lexusguy
Apr 11, 2008 (7:39 pm)
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Replying to: hpowders (Apr 11, 2008 7:26 pm)

If you haven't already, check out page 9 of C&D, April 2008. Very sobering reading.
 
I was actually more surprised by how poor the fuel economy was overall in their comparison test of cheap hatches in the may issue. The best in test Corolla only managed 28mpg, the rest were in the low to mid 20s. Not good.
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Re: Things change [lexusguy] by hpowders
Apr 11, 2008 (7:40 pm)
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Replying to: lexusguy (Apr 11, 2008 7:19 pm)

We should have known that the diesel deck would be stacked against us. Who are we to go up against "big oil"?
 
Well, something's got to give-I don't see any ceiling on the price of gasoline, now with the summer driving season almost upon us, who knows how high it can go?
 
I haven't heard anything significant from the 3 candidates about how to address this crucial issue.
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Re: Things change [lexusguy] by hpowders
Apr 11, 2008 (7:47 pm)
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Replying to: lexusguy (Apr 11, 2008 7:39 pm)

 The winning Corolla (fuel economy) only got 28 mpg combined. Undistinguished for a small vehicle.
 
Instead of going smaller, manufacturers for some insane reason continue to build bigger-the new, huge Accord EX V6 sedan can only achieve 21 mpg combined; this with "variable cylinder management" to maximize mileage.
 
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Re: The Real Lexus Numbers in Japan [lexusguy] by houdini1
Apr 12, 2008 (8:22 am)
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Replying to: lexusguy (Apr 11, 2008 1:03 pm)

I know that I am in the minority here but I actually think the RL is a great looking car. I especially like the interior, including the dash. On the other hand, the new Audi interior pic that was recently posted reminded me of a 15 year old Taurus. So I guess I am just different.
 
The only thing wrong with the RL is that it is priced about 10 grand too much. If it had an msrp starting in the low 40's they would sell 3 times as many. Now they have to heavily discount them anyway and that gives them a bad image.
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Re: The Real Lexus Numbers in Japan [anthonyp] by 2001gs430
Apr 12, 2008 (8:35 am)
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Replying to: anthonyp (Apr 11, 2008 1:21 pm)

Hi Tony,
 
You are one of the lucky people on this forum that has a home in Florida to escape winter weather. I probably need to consult you when I need more info on the Miami area. I have visited Miami/Ft Lauderdale about three years ago and I liked it a lot. My client was in Weston ( about 20 min east of Ft Lauderdale), where so many beautiful properties existed, the only thing is that it is a bit too close to the Everglade swamp where those big reptiles with big teeth actually hang out at the sides of the roads on a sunny day
I have also been to Tampa/Clear Water area where the area seems less diversified than Miami. My goal is to get a place within an hour drive of a major airport, on/near water front and major centers. I need to figure out what Floridian do to offset risks of Hurricane damages at reasonable costs (does location matter?).
I've seen ads for brand new properties in the Ft Myers area for only around 200k which would be good for a cash purchase to avoid hassling with mortgage companies.
Also, best of all, with a valid US address, I can buy high end cars at much more reasonable prices than what we Canadian currently have to put up with (go to the Import cars from the US thread to see what I mean).
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Re: The Real Lexus Numbers in Japan [houdini1] by lexusguy
Apr 12, 2008 (10:17 am)
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Replying to: houdini1 (Apr 12, 2008 8:22 am)

On the other hand, the new Audi interior pic that was recently posted reminded me of a 15 year old Taurus. So I guess I am just different.
 
I have to tell you I'm looking at the new A4 and a 15 year old Taurus, and I'm really not seeing it. Could you point out how they are similar?
 


 
The question is, how do you get the RL to be 10 grand cheaper? Do you take away the AWD system? Do you take out the NAV and all the electronics? Cloth seats? How does that equal 1500 sales a month?
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Re: The Real Lexus Numbers in Japan [2001gs430] by anthonyp
Apr 12, 2008 (12:16 pm)
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Replying to: 2001gs430 (Apr 12, 2008 8:35 am)

Ft Myers is where I turn off i95 and get on the Florida turnpike--at a price-- and I haven`t explored the area as I am in a rush to get to Miami.....You`l have fun thinking and exploring (with the computer)....As for hurricanes, (if you own your house you don`t have to have a expensive insurance policy)....I have had to cope with them my whole life, and they can be ferocious....If you are careful and have a proper roof--I mean a good one, and the good storm windows, the damage can be controlled....Unfortunately my roof --although sound--could give me some trouble in a big blow....I would love to have a garage for the cars, but in my planning we have a concrete garage(pay) nearby and will put the cars in it....For hurricane Hugo I stayed south of Charleston (20 miles) and I don`t suggest sticking around for that powerful of a storm....It only got up to about a hundred mph sustained, but north of the city it was terrable...Another thing, the pitch of the roof is important...The steeper the pitch the better it will stay on---sort of like an airplane wing....Tony
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Re: Things change [lexusguy] by anthonyp
Apr 12, 2008 (12:32 pm)
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Replying to: lexusguy (Apr 11, 2008 7:11 pm)

Hi Lexusguy
 
One thing that is not going to change for me is paying with a hundred dollar bill and getting a couple of twenties back--and feeling I was treated right-- No question I am not a person who plans the use of the car very efficiently, but I do walk alot either in Miami or Charleston...I think most people are using their cars for important things--like work---child raising--so these big purchases of fuel add up....I don`t have a clue to what is going to happen to change this situation we are in, but something will...Tony

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