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Replying to: hpowders (Apr 11, 2008 1:30 pm) Ugh, don't even get me started on Walmart parking lots. If there's another place where you are more likely to end up with a nice big fat scrape or dent, I haven't found it. |
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Replying to: lexusguy (Apr 11, 2008 1:06 pm) More Homer-like drooling for the DB9 and Maser... 
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Replying to: hpowders (Apr 11, 2008 1:30 pm) I had a quick visit up there, and the weather was still winter, but I`l go back soon...Remember a while ago when we were talking about diesel? I asked the other day how our bio diesel plant was coming (the fuel doesn`t smell like diesel) and we are now making fuel....Of course the prices have gone up alot (raw material) and I wondered how we would be competative...Turns out we get a subsidy to make the fuel, and of course I thought it was for the U S A-- no all of it has been exported to Europe ( I`l find out if any gets to our friend Jose)...I have a feeling the big oil companies are going to manufacture a shortage of diesel therefore the price will rise even more than gas...Just my opinion....I really look forward to the next generation of hy-bred, so I might join Dewey with a Lexus--if it is worthwhile...In the meantime I sure look forward to the approaching time when you start to crank up.....Hasta manana Tony 
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Replying to: lexusguy (Apr 11, 2008 4:35 pm) Well yeah, except this was a "super center" parking lot, meaning HUGE!! Being that I don't work, I take the wife there only during week days when kids are supposed to be in school and most folks are at work-plenty of parking room, and even then, I always park as far away from the super center as humanly possible, which drives my poor wife absolutely insane! For some reason I cannot figure out, she seems to think I park the 545i far away from the store because it is a 'big car." 
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Replying to: houdini1 (Apr 11, 2008 2:13 pm) Regards, OW |
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Replying to: anthonyp (Apr 11, 2008 5:09 pm) Unfortunately things don't look good for diesel prices in the US. This is why the truckers are all going nuts. World wide demand for diesel is continuing to grow, and unlike Europe, our refining capacity for diesel is only a small fraction of the capacity for gasoline and other fuels. By the time the diesels get here at the end of the decade, ULSD may be so expensive that their increased MPG will no longer make economic sense.
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Replying to: lexusguy (Apr 11, 2008 4:35 pm) Or, just buy a 6 year old Accord! Regards, OW |
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Replying to: anthonyp (Apr 11, 2008 5:09 pm) There was a column in C&D recently by Csaba Csere (April, 2008, page 9) in which he discussed that to extract more diesel fuel for increased demand in the US, the refineries would have to "re-tool" for hydrocracking, since only a fraction of petroleum can be distilled for diesel fuel using our current method of catalytic cracking. Such a switch would take 5 to 10 years! As Csere ends his column, "Despite the merits of modern diesels, anyone who expects them to solve our energy problems stands to be disappointed." So Tony, big oil has its excuse to keep on producing mostly gasoline and a very limited supply of diesel fuel. The more demand for these diesel vehicles from MB, BMW and others that are imported here, Tony, the higher the price that diesel fuel will go. Diesel vehicles have been successful in Europe because the refineries there are set up for maximum diesel fuel extraction using the hydrocracking method. Diesel fuel sells for about a buck cheaper per gallon in Europe. It doesn't hurt that the Europeans heavily tax gasoline to encourage folks to buy diesel vehicles. The only way diesel can work in NA is if the governments highly tax gasoline, making it significantly more expensive than diesel fuel. They must also provide meaningful incentives for new refineries to be built which are designed to extract maximum diesel fuel from petroleum. Since we know big oil rules the world, look for none of the above to happen.
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Replying to: hpowders (Apr 11, 2008 6:42 pm) Just don't tell her she could use the exercise  
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Replying to: hpowders (Apr 11, 2008 7:13 pm) Yeah I'm one of those others. My wife wants something more fuel efficient than the X3, so I was telling her about the GLK and Q5/3 diesels. Unfortunately by the time they get here, diesel in PA will probably cost $4.50 a gallon. 
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