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Re: Porsche versus London [houdini1] by jlbl
Apr 11, 2008 (7:32 am)
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Replying to: houdini1 (Apr 10, 2008 2:22 pm)

When in Florida I hope you got to visit St. Augustine.
 
Yes, I did. Nice city. After being to Orlando to a conference I rented a mid-size car (of so little interest that I have even forgot its brand name ) to spent some days driving to St. Augustine, Cape Canaveral (from caņaveral : a spot where canes grow) and other places.
 
Founded by your Countrymen in 1565, it is the oldest city in the U.S.
 
Coincidentally, the farm of my motherīs family at the Aragon Pyrenees Mountains has '1565' engraved in its stone framed main entrance door.
 
On the other hand, no Aragonese person went to the Americas as Spanish explorer or settler, because the Aragonese Parliament consistently refused, from the 16th to the 18th Centuries, to rise taxation to give money to the King for expeditions to America and other war enterprises, even within Europe. So, the American expeditions were only supported by the Castilian and Leonese Parliament and as such only Castilians and Leonese persons were allowed to cross the Ocean to get a chance to improve their living.
 
(In the USA I have visited Maine in addition to the other places I posted yesterday.)
 
Regards,
Jose
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Re: Porsche versus London [dewey] by jlbl
Apr 11, 2008 (7:34 am)
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Re: The Real Lexus Numbers in Japan [laurasdada] by dewey
Apr 11, 2008 (7:40 am)
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Replying to: laurasdada (Apr 11, 2008 7:32 am)

To many, they do produce a car that is competitive with the 3 series. It all boils down to the individual buyers priorities, e.g. ride/handling, price, size, perceived quality, style, value, pros/cons of driven wheels... as to determine how competitive it is. In your eyes, the TL is not so competitive. In my eyes, it was my choice.
 
OK let me revise my last post. I dont completely disagree with you in terms of your above statement. In fact I do agree.
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Re: The Real Lexus Numbers in Japan [2001gs430] by dewey
Apr 11, 2008 (7:43 am)
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Replying to: 2001gs430 (Apr 11, 2008 7:24 am)

would love to have a house in Florida,
 
I spent a lot of time during my youth in my parents beach- front condominion that was located right at the border of Pompano Beach and Fort Lauderdale.
 
I can see why you like Florida but despite that I would never buy a second home. During my travels I like to experience novelty and not be at the very same
home away from home.
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Re: New MB Diesel [dewey] by jlbl
Apr 11, 2008 (7:44 am)
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Replying to: dewey (Apr 11, 2008 7:08 am)

What a gem of an MB diesel engine. This engine alone may sway me to buy a new MB C-Class.
 
We use to comment more on BMW and Audi diesel engines in this trend, yet M-B has a well deserved reputation on passenger diesel engines over here. Additionally, the M-B division for truck & bus diesel engines is top-seller, huge and long-lasting.
 
Regards,
Jose
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Re: Things change [tagman] by hpowders
Apr 11, 2008 (8:04 am)
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Replying to: tagman (Apr 08, 2008 9:19 am)

Hello TM!
 
Ah, yes. The good old days. When homes were homes and loans were loans.
 
TM, you certainly have recalled some memorable posters from the past.
 
I hope you are enjoying your smashing new 135i Coupe! I'm sure you are having a lot of fun.
 
As for me, I have yet to trek to my regular BMW dealership for my end of lease test-driving ritual, as I recently found out they have changed ownership. Fittingly, I had to find out about the change over the internet from a poster at Bimmerfest! As a loyal customer since 1993, I received no letter, postcard or e-mail from them about the ownership change. I would have expected my phone to be ringing "off the hook" by now to "come on in" since my lease is almost up, with aggressive new management in place.
 
Based on my wealth of 15 year experiences, BMW has to be considered the absolutely most arrogant premium dealership on the planet. On the Edmunds BMW "3 Series Run Flat Tires" thread, cdnpinhead aptly puts it: "BMWNA couldn't care less, I imagine. There's.... 300 sheep for every one driver who opts out."
 
The cars do perform breathtakingly well, but a total "premium experience", BMW sadly does not offer.
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Re: The Real Lexus Numbers in Japan [dewey] by laurasdada
Apr 11, 2008 (9:39 am)
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Replying to: dewey (Apr 11, 2008 7:40 am)

Most of my comments relate to "Beauty/value/performance/economy/luxury/ride... is in the wallet of the beholder." Many folks speak/post in absolutes, as if their opinions were facts. Which they may be to the poster, not necessarily to the readers of said posts. Of course, this applies not just to cars/Edmunds...
 
My familia owned a condo in Boca Raton for about 25 years. Nice neighborhood. If I was looking for the snowbird home, I think I'd look in the Boca/Pompano/Delray area. But, that's the only area I even know a little, but it's nice...
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Re: The Real Lexus Numbers in Japan [circlew] by laurasdada
Apr 11, 2008 (9:42 am)
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Replying to: circlew (Apr 11, 2008 3:05 am)

Mmmmm, Jaguar (Homer-like drooling...).
 
That was it, different wheels though, I think...
 
Great shoulders on the XK, like a car with a good set of well integrated shoulders.
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Re: The Real Lexus Numbers in Japan [laurasdada] by lexusguy
Apr 11, 2008 (1:03 pm)
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Replying to: laurasdada (Apr 11, 2008 7:32 am)

But for a lot less $, the TL, to me, is more car...
 
I thought the same thing when the RL was released. It's not faster, or more spacious, or better handling, or really any nicer on the inside than the TL. I hated the RL's center stack controls then and still do. The control knob thing just doesn't work for Acura. It's in the wrong place, its hideous, and there seems to be more buttons in Acura interiors than ever before, so it clearly hasn't simplified anything.

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