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New MB Diesel by dewey
Apr 11, 2008 (7:08 am)
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The top-of-the-line 2.1-liter oilburner is producing 204 hp and 368 lb.-ft. of torque, or around 20-percent more than its predecessor, while returning better mileage and reducing emissions by over 10-percent. When fitted in the new C-class (250CDI) it's able to make the run to 60 in 7.7 seconds while getting 46 mpg.
 
link title
 
What a gem of an MB diesel engine. This engine alone may sway me to buy a new MB C-Class.
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Re: The Real Lexus Numbers in Japan [circlew] by dewey
Apr 11, 2008 (7:11 am)
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Replying to: circlew (Apr 11, 2008 3:05 am)

Looks BEAUTIFUL!
 
But in all honesty almost any car looks beautiful with pictures that have gone through such extensive workshop photo efforts.
 
I saw a salt and dirt covered Jag XKR during a dreary winter day and it did not at all resemble the car on your posted picture.
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Re: The Real Lexus Numbers in Japan [laurasdada] by dewey
Apr 11, 2008 (7:17 am)
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Replying to: laurasdada (Apr 09, 2008 6:57 pm)

But at least we can agree to disagree.
 
Honda's engineering prowess for performance cars is completly lacking today.
 
But that's not it!
 
Honda's engineering prowess for its much acclaimed fuel efficient cars is completely lacking also. It's new Honda Accord is more fuel inefficent than the older model. A far more practical and bigger Toyota Corolla is an equivalent if not better gas miser when compared to the lighter Honda Fit. Honda hybrids are second rate when compared to Toyota's. hybrids And now the Honda diesel 2.2L sold in Europe is nothing special when compared to the new diesel engines from VW.
 
So where the heck is the proof that Honda is such a wonderful engineering company today? Honda reminds me of Volvo which has a similar inflated reputation except in Volvo's case their laurels rests on safety.
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Re: The Real Lexus Numbers in Japan [dewey] by 2001gs430
Apr 11, 2008 (7:24 am)
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Replying to: dewey (Apr 10, 2008 2:24 pm)

I love the USA too. I lived in Santa Clara and Dallas for about a year during the tech bubble time. I am strongly tempted to buy a home in the sun belt while the prices are very affordable to Canadians. I would love to have a house in Florida, but I still have a lot of research to do before deciding on a specific city.
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Re: 2009 A4 pictures [lexusguy] by 2001gs430
Apr 11, 2008 (7:28 am)
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Replying to: lexusguy (Apr 10, 2008 10:58 am)

Yes, the Japanese usually copy some good ideas and make them even better than the original.
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Re: The Real Lexus Numbers in Japan [lexusguy] by laurasdada
Apr 11, 2008 (7:32 am)
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Replying to: lexusguy (Apr 10, 2008 1:19 pm)

While I've oft defended the TL, I'm not sure that I can do the same for the RL. Because of the TL! Indeed, if the RL offered more interior space, increased performance through a V8 and styling that, while handsome, is entirely anonymous and forgettable, maybe a case could be made. But for a lot less $, the TL, to me, is more car...
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Re: Porsche versus London [houdini1] by jlbl
Apr 11, 2008 (7:32 am)
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Replying to: houdini1 (Apr 10, 2008 2:22 pm)

When in Florida I hope you got to visit St. Augustine.
 
Yes, I did. Nice city. After being to Orlando to a conference I rented a mid-size car (of so little interest that I have even forgot its brand name ) to spent some days driving to St. Augustine, Cape Canaveral (from caņaveral : a spot where canes grow) and other places.
 
Founded by your Countrymen in 1565, it is the oldest city in the U.S.
 
Coincidentally, the farm of my motherīs family at the Aragon Pyrenees Mountains has '1565' engraved in its stone framed main entrance door.
 
On the other hand, no Aragonese person went to the Americas as Spanish explorer or settler, because the Aragonese Parliament consistently refused, from the 16th to the 18th Centuries, to rise taxation to give money to the King for expeditions to America and other war enterprises, even within Europe. So, the American expeditions were only supported by the Castilian and Leonese Parliament and as such only Castilians and Leonese persons were allowed to cross the Ocean to get a chance to improve their living.
 
(In the USA I have visited Maine in addition to the other places I posted yesterday.)
 
Regards,
Jose
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Re: Porsche versus London [dewey] by jlbl
Apr 11, 2008 (7:34 am)
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Re: The Real Lexus Numbers in Japan [laurasdada] by dewey
Apr 11, 2008 (7:40 am)
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Replying to: laurasdada (Apr 11, 2008 7:32 am)

To many, they do produce a car that is competitive with the 3 series. It all boils down to the individual buyers priorities, e.g. ride/handling, price, size, perceived quality, style, value, pros/cons of driven wheels... as to determine how competitive it is. In your eyes, the TL is not so competitive. In my eyes, it was my choice.
 
OK let me revise my last post. I dont completely disagree with you in terms of your above statement. In fact I do agree.
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Re: The Real Lexus Numbers in Japan [2001gs430] by dewey
Apr 11, 2008 (7:43 am)
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Replying to: 2001gs430 (Apr 11, 2008 7:24 am)

would love to have a house in Florida,
 
I spent a lot of time during my youth in my parents beach- front condominion that was located right at the border of Pompano Beach and Fort Lauderdale.
 
I can see why you like Florida but despite that I would never buy a second home. During my travels I like to experience novelty and not be at the very same
home away from home.

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