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You are in the Chrysler 300M
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Chrysler 300M, Sedan
This topic covers any issues related to hard starting, no starts, stalling and erratic idling problems.
#146 of 195 Re: 2002 300M starter clicks but later starts. Starte replaced 8 times now [jcpaintworkz]
Nov 29, 2011 (10:09 pm)
It sounds to me like you have a grounding problem. All ground wire mounting spots/points must be checked for rust or corrosion. Remove driving light on passenger side (ground wires there). Remove ground terminals from driver's side inner fender rail , clean with wire brush etc.
There are major discrepancies in the Chrysler Service manuals , as to whether or not there "is" or "should be" a dedicated ground cable going from the battery ground terminal (directly to the passenger side engine block). The manual says there is 1 there as such , but it doesn't exist. The manual also says that there is supposed to be a ground cable bolted directly behind the starter (on the transmission casing) - but there aren't. These types of discrepancies can cause all sorts of power failures , clips , etc. , where the PCM will shut down as a result , or the starter will not engage etc. Plus , you really need to be checking the engine ground straps that are braided , which go from the engine "head" to the inner fender well mounts (GROUND). If just 1 braided strap fails to conduct to ground , (rusted) , a no-power condition can exist. I have replaced just 1 , and had the engine start & run without any issue in the past.
The same principals can be applied : if you were to attempt to use a rusty lightbulb , and screw it into the socket of a lamp. The result would be : intermittent lighting of the filament , dimness of the bulb , on-off conditions , or no lighting of the bulb - or the bulb might burn out as a result of improper & inconsistent voltage flow to the filament. With today's computers , the computer will sense an abnormal condition (and treat it as a short) - shutting the entire system down.
Another noteworthy thought I just had (you said it was raining) when you had the no start condition. In the Service Manuals , they mention that the rear window defroster lines are not embedded into the glass (they are glued on top of the inner glass) - therefore you should not clean the inner of the rear window with harsh chemicals of any kind (water only). Those lines could be broken , cracked (not working) , "or" - crossing over each other , "or" RUSTED on the window edge contact areas to the window frame.
#147 of 195 Re: 2002 300M starter clicks but later starts. Starte replaced 8 times now [pitmanoeuvre]
Nov 29, 2011 (10:19 pm)
About the back window wires. It's been raining the entire time past 4 days even while he's getting it to start its same outside condition.
I'm going to Go ahead and replace the battery and possibly the battery terminals they are corroded pretty bad on top. I'll check the grounding straps and othe grounds too. I pray I figure this out. It's been eating me alive. We love the car and it will be paid off in 6 months. Hate to get something else after getting it paid off so I hope I get it solved.
Anymore ideas send them my way please
#148 of 195 Re: 2002 300M starter clicks but later starts. Starte replaced 8 times now [jcpaintworkz]
Nov 30, 2011 (1:20 pm)
It's a faulty wire that connects to your starter its a small thin wire on the side of the starter
#149 of 195 Re: 2002 300M starter clicks but later starts. Starte replaced 8 times now [pitmanoeuvre]
Nov 30, 2011 (1:27 pm)
Need to look at the actual wires and cables themselves, I having same issues with my 99 300m. We took the front tire OFF to change the battery and after a quick look behind the fender well was the main positive battery cable and the inner tie rod. The tie rod has rubbed the positive battery cable until the bare wire is showing. So everytime I turned the wheel while driving or at any time the bare wire came in contact with the tie rod the car would die b/c it grounds outs (so to speak). Hope this helps. It really made me fell better that it was something as simple as that!
#150 of 195 Re: 2002 300M starter clicks but later starts. Starte replaced 8 times now [ryand2]
Nov 30, 2011 (2:29 pm)
are you speaking of the wire that goes from the battery to the starter itself?
#151 of 195 Still having starting issues
Dec 06, 2011 (7:59 pm)
Well got the car back today from my moms husband. He searched everything he could and found nothing. The entire week it was out there it started multiple times daily for him. It was getting power to the starter wire and we load tested the battery and it's good. We get out there to drive it home and it fires right up. On the way home her fog lights came on and I called and asked and she said the switch has been on whole time and she hasn't messed with it. It was odd but I happen to see them come on. Then we get home and park in the garage. Shut it off. And guess what won't start just click as soon as you hit the key. One click per turn of the key.
#152 of 195 Re: 99 300m [pitmanoeuvre]
Dec 12, 2011 (2:41 pm)
Hello, by chance would you be able to provide a copy of the manual?
I am also experiencing the same issue with my 2007 300 Touring.
Already had the spark plugs replaced, filter and #6 cyliniod replaced. Also fuel injection service done on it as well.
#153 of 195 Re: 99 300m [ryand2]
Dec 13, 2011 (2:49 am)
So I finally broke down and went to the auto shop and after replacing, my coil (4), battery,spark plugs, cam sensor and my fuel pump come to find out it was my crank sensor the whole time. So.if your 300m just cuts off while your driving you might.wanna check.that out before spending a bunch of money.
#154 of 195 Re: 99 300m [bronx300]
Dec 13, 2011 (11:28 am)
bronx300 : Drop your entire mailing address into : (bhthwhyahoo.ca) - without brackets , and I will send you the entire 99-04 300M Chrysler Service Manuals in the mail asap.
You will not be sorry you did , as I will NOT use your address for anything else , nor share it. These are Technician Service Manuals , that specifically instruct the technician what must be done , what is involved , every single facet of a diagnosis and / or repair. You could expect to pay hundreds of dollars for these , as they are completely thorough , and NOT knockoff's , they are direct from Chrysler and contain authentication certificates / application documentations. They are complete copies off of the design bench.
Whereas , you will NOT be able to flip through them like you might a Chilton or Haynes manual. Using Adobe Reader 9 etc. , you will notice sections as large as 6000+ pages. Huge , huge manuals which include everything from troubleshooting to schematics.
Depending on your location , I have a copy already made , so you could have it (free) within a week or less. I originally made a copy to ensure that I didn't lose it from my computer , which would be a great loss. I'll flip it into the mail as soon as I get the information required to do so. I gaurantee you won't believe how much information is in these manuals.
I have had these manuals for over 6 months and still don't have the time to figure out an approx. volume size (over 10,000 pages at least).
Jan 21, 2012 (6:57 am)
Hello my 300 will not start.It turns over but wont start up,IDK what to do. I came home from work one evening filled up with gas parked it for the night,next day will not start tryed everything what should i do?