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Toyota Matrix, Tires, Wheels, Wagon
#22 of 265 Re: Toyota Matrix Tire Wear [jesuslovesbarb]
Nov 11, 2006 (1:11 am)
I have a 2006 toyota matrix XR 2wd. I took my car to sears to get my tires rotated and balanced since I purchased new wheels from sears. they refused to rotate my tires since one had 2/32 tread and another had the belts showing on the inside of tire. So I mad an appt with dealership. what will I expect? The car only has 14000 miles. will they give me new tires or will I have to pay something. Other then replacing tires does toyota have an answer for this problem?
#23 of 265 2006 Matrix XR - Same Issue
Nov 14, 2006 (9:51 pm)
I noticed that the inside of the front right tire was wearing more than the rest of the tire during the last rotation at 15K+ miles in September. The tire was also visibly feathered with the tread angling towards the inside of the tire. I put off getting it checked out because I was busy with house chores (stupid me).
Well, I started noticing a "wobble" noise a few weeks ago and decided to get it checked out. I took my car to an independent repair shop because most of the local Toyota dealerships did not get good ratings from www.checkbook.org. The independent repair shop said that the right rear wheel was misaligned and they could fix it, but it would cost $200+ because they would have to remove the rear hub assembly and shim the wheels to align them. They suggested taking it to a Toyota dealer because it should still be under warranty. They think the alignment issue came that way from the factory.
I took my Matrix to the same dealership where I purchased it and they stated that the alignment was fine. They said that the Continental tires were the issue and to contact Continental. They said there is an issue with Continental tires wearing the way I described. I thought it was bull and told the service writer so.
Now after reading all of these other posts about the same issue, I'm a bit worried. I can't afford to just get rid of this car and I don't want to be buying new tires every 20K miles or so. I'm not sure what to do at this point or if anything can even be done. The alignment warranty expires in about 1400 miles/5 weeks.
#24 of 265 Re: 2006 Matrix XR - Same Issue [kurvan]
Nov 15, 2006 (8:45 am)
FYI: Tire wear (Matrix) humbug,
Update on 2005 Matrix Tire Wear.
Toyota blamed Continential Tires on our car too. Toyota replaced tires at approximately 7,000 miles W/ Goodyear Brand. Now we're at 14,000 plus miles and seems like we are having same trouble again. Not as bad yet but will have to wait for more wear to make up our mind for sure.
These tires are starting to give off a slight rumble like before! Seems like problem is ONLY W/front tires. Alignment checks OK per Toyota Dealer. WHAT TO DO?????
BIG QUESTION????? Mr and Mrs humbug
#25 of 265 Re: 2006 Matrix XR - Same Issue [humbug]
Nov 15, 2006 (9:14 am)
Initiate warranty claims ASAP for the Alignment problem. The tires Continental sold to Toyota for installation are labled as the highes warranty - so the tire story from Toyota is bunk - Your personal mechanic is correct - the car was manufactured with an alignment malady. It is not uncommon for front tires to get out of alignment under aggressive driving conditions or hitting bumps, oil patches, or other conditions that cause strain of the system when in a turn. But rear wheel alignment should never be a problem or a recurring problem on a new car.
You need to have documented three attempts/requests for the dealer/manufacture to fix the same recurring problem. after the third unsatisfactory attempt as the Manufacturer for the Lemmon Law Paperwork for them to buy the car back. Tell the dealership in advance this is what you intend - the dealership will not buy the car back but they must support you in your Lemmon Law pursuit (remember who they work for) this is why they are telling you everything is fine. Don't worry about pushing them - you will have too. When you get your car back each time - read the invoice and make sure they made the notations of the service you requested. My guys kept leaving it off the first couple of times.
My wife was so disgusted by the car (New Matrix) she really wanted that she lost patience in the process and traded it in on a used 2002 Volvo AWD Wagon XC-70 with 40K on it for the same payments and a lower insurance cost. She loves here new(er) car now.
#26 of 265 Re: Toyota Matrix Tire Wear [remaxmarty1]
Nov 25, 2006 (9:47 pm)
my matrix had 14,800. I took my car to sears they would not rotate the tires because one tire was at 2/32 and another tire was completely worn on the inside tread. The other 2 had 3/32 and 4/32. After about a wekk of discussing this problem with the dealer and toyota. Toyota offered to put same continental tires, I said i want a dofferent brand. I wanted Michelin mxv4. The dealership paid excess of $112.00 per tire and got michelin. I don't think the problem will go away, so the service manager agreed with me and we will check the tores every 5,000 miles for wear problems. Further more my tires were rotated every 5,000 mile and the alignment was in MFR specifications. I wonder when toyota will realize there is a problem and fix the real problem
#27 of 265 Same sh** different shovel.....matrix tires
Nov 27, 2006 (2:51 pm)
Having just gotten the run around from the dealer and the same tire story all of you hve gotten, my husband took the car with him on a 600 mile trip on the brand new tires paid for in half by the toyota dealer. While away he brought it to a friend who owns an alignment shop...put it on their lift and checked the alignment on their computer and low and behold the rear alignment is out of whack. This after toyota told him that the problem was the tires...PS hubby has been a mechanic for 30 years and told toyota that the only reason that you get tread wear on the inside edge is when the alignment is off...Got home with 600+ miles on the new tires and !!!they are already wearing on the inside ...which toyota said wouldn't happen because the problem was the Continental tires...only 16,000 miles on the car. One or two more trips to toyota and we're done! Have an appointment tomorrow and let's see what they say now! Other than the tires...love the car! By the way, the rumbling you guys are hearing is the uneven wear of the tires..we thought it was a wheel bearing too but, problem is the rear wheel assembly, alignment, etc.. Toyota needs to make good on this design flaw. PS just a plain old Matrix not the AWD version
#28 of 265 Tire needs replacing at 13,500 miles
Dec 05, 2006 (5:25 am)
The front left tire on my 2006 Matrix XR needs to be replaced at 13,500 miles because of uneven wear on the inside part of the tread. I had the tires rotated on schedule and the dealer said my alignment was fine so they sent me to an authorized Continental dealer for an adjustment. They balked and pointed out to me that all four of my tires are showing the same wear pattern. Seems unlikely that I got four bad tires, huh? My main concern is that this represents a defect in the manufacture of the vehicle and that my only recourse is now to get rid of it, so I won't have to but tires every year. I've read all the posts here and have consulted my local lemon laws as some have suggested. Any other suggestions? I'm trying to gather as much information as possible before I go back at the dealer.
#29 of 265 Re: Tire needs replacing at 13,500 miles [mtx06]
Dec 05, 2006 (6:34 am)
The manufacturer is the entity that is forced to buy the car back under the law. The dealership must cooperate with you but will naturally be reluctant so you have to read your reciepts carefully after you take the car for visits in documenting their attempts to repair the alignment defect. i.e. you ask them to check the alignment when rotating tires or at oil change - make sure the workorder reciept you get back documents their action "checked alignment - no action required or defect noted".
Second - expect them to offer some good will gesture such as replacing the tires - at this point they are going to take those tires (oops no more evidence of defect) so photograph them before you bring them in. If and when they do change the tires (most likely with Michelin) invest $3 in a tire tread gage. Measure and record the tread depths and keep a log every 250 miles. The michelin tires have a harder compound and will take longer to wear - they are also very expensive. If you had to buy these every 2-3 years it would also defeat the purpose of purchasing this car for it's fuel economy (normally those tires should run 60-80K miles. The reason you have to do this to: 1 keep the car running at their expense on new tires. 2 support your evidence of an alignment defect (the problem won't go away - the wear pattern will continue but will not be as visual - the noise however will still indicate it is there -so measurements are the most solid proof. Remember they have 3 chances to fix it and ultimately one final one after you file documentation.
#30 of 265 Dont wait-take care of it ASAP
Dec 08, 2006 (3:02 pm)
I had the same problem. For a couple of weeks or so I could feel a bit of a wobble, thought maybe I had a soft tire. Had the pressure checked, it was fine but was told the tires were worn badly (less than 19,000 miles). This was Thanksgiving day. I planned to take it in on the following Monday for new tires but my 17 yr old son borrowed it on Saturday and although he was not speeding, (going 55mph) a tire went on a small curve sending him out of control and he rolled the car. Now my Matrix is totaled. I am convinced it was a problem with the car or tires and not just a wreckless teenager like the kind (NOT) officier on the scene said. To look at the car, it is a wonder my son only suffered some bumps and bruises. So don't wait before it happens to one of you or your loved ones with an even worse outcome.
#31 of 265 Also having tire issue
Dec 12, 2006 (5:17 am)
05 Matrix with 25000 miles. Last fall right before taking a 1200 mile trip I noticed abnormal wear on rear tires. I rotated them just before the trip and by the time I got home the back tires were feathered and now it sounds like I have snow tires on the car. I took it to the dealer I purchased from and they did an alignment saying the front was toed in a little. I told them it was the back wearing the tires out and they didn't believe me, even came up with probably bad tires. Now my car drives like junk since they toed it out and I have to turn the radio up. Does the car have to be under warranty to pursue lemon law buy back?