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Toyota Matrix, Tires, Wheels, Wagon
Jan 27, 2009 (11:55 am)
Town Toyota installed a Camber Adjustment kit K929 MOOG on my 2006 Matrix. I let them discard my old worn-out Continentals and put on the winter studs. Town's service manager acknowledged no problem with the Matrix and tire wear. He has read the forums. The problem was that not enough of us filed with Toyota about the problem. There are probably thousands of people out there who never brought the problem to the attention of the company. My old tires probably had 18,000 miles on them as I put on studs from October through April.
While my car was in the shop I looked around the showroom and the 2009 model Matrix. A salesman snagged me. Long story short, I traded my 2006 in on a new 2009 with siped (sp) Goodyear Eagle tires on it. I financed at zero percent; Toyota paid off every penny of my old balance (about 14,000), so I also saved the interest I would have paid over the next few years. My old AWD car had 29000 miles on it. It was clean and the buyers really wanted it.
I have the warranty pamphlet for the Eagles in front of me.I intend to have them rotated every 6000 miles or six months. There is no "mileage" guarantee, but there is a "wear" guarantee that will replace the tires free if the wear reaches a certain point in the first year. After the first year, there's a six-year prorated replacement guarantee.
I don't like the color as much as my old car, and I have cheap plastic hubcaps, but the car has more pep and is handling beautifully, without studs, on the snow and ice.
I solved my problem by trading for a new car. I hope that the tire problems won't recur in the 2009 model.
#198 of 265 Re: so whats the final answer for matrix? [unclesalami]
Feb 01, 2009 (10:01 am)
I have an 09 Matrix with 7,000 miles. I have not experiemced any unever wear yet. But the car does not ride well. I feel every little bump. My friend said the tires that came with car are not the best I would get a better ride with better tires. The car came with Bridgestone Turanza P215/45R17 tires. I had them rotated at 5,000. I am not a tire expert so any advice would be appreciated. Would another brand help the ride quality or maybe it is not the tires? It appears Michelin might have been a better choice. I love the car but do not like feeling every bump in the road.
#199 of 265 Re: so whats the final answer for matrix? [DON__FLORIDA]
Feb 01, 2009 (1:28 pm)
The Matrix is a moderately small light car, designed to be a little bit "sporty". As such, there will be compromises as to ride comfort. What car are you coming out of? Many midsize and large cars are optimized for ride comfort as a top priority, and you would be bound to notice the less-smooth ride of the Matrix by contrast.
#200 of 265 Re: so whats the final answer for matrix? [nippononly]
Feb 02, 2009 (6:59 am)
You may be right. I also have a 2002 VW Passat and the ride comfort is moch better. I am looking forward to seeing the Venza.
#201 of 265 Re: so whats the final answer for matrix? [DON__FLORIDA]
Feb 02, 2009 (7:23 am)
I also have a 2002 VW Passat and the ride comfort is moch better
Just as I would expect it to be. Nice car, but certainly heavier than a Matrix by several hundred pounds, and designed to optimize ride comfort.
#202 of 265 Got the alignment done....
Feb 08, 2009 (11:23 pm)
I bought the K929 camb kit and gave it along with my car to my uncle. he is the engine instructor at a local college and they have an alignment machine there. this was the printout that he gave me when he gave me the car back.
any thought on the data??
#203 of 265 Re: Got the alignment done.... [though]
Feb 10, 2009 (12:13 pm)
The alignment is much better but not perfect.
While the individual toe #'s in the rear are off a little the total toe is in spec. The rear of the car will be slightly shifted (dog track), not enough to see or worry about IMHO.
Feb 10, 2009 (11:07 pm)
ok, thanks for the reply! i will run these tires for a bit longer then pony up for some new ones. it definitely handles better now and doesn't pull to either side anymore (unless there are strong winds or the road is weird!)
#205 of 265 Goodyear Eagle Cupping
Jun 21, 2009 (5:33 pm)
2003 AWD Matrix. 64K on the odometer. Dealer says the tires (and their tread) will pass inspection in August. Running on Goodyear Eagles, which came from the factory, but tire replacement history is a bit different than normal:
* August 2005 at 27K had to replace 2 tires because the driver's side rear tire had a chunk out of the sidewall. Dealer put the new tires on the rear after telling me they would go on the front with the existing front tires moved to the rear. Two days later they switched the new ones to the front at no charge. Recommended against rotating tires; said good tires should remain on the front until tread wear was relatively even.
* August 2007 at 43K needed 2 new tires again because the two remaining factory tires were worn to the point they wouldn't pass inspection. New tires again put on front.
* Tires were then not rotated again until last week. They had planned to do so at 60K in January 2009 but decided not to because they said one of the rear tires was showing 'minor cupping.' You could definitely hear the rumbling road noise at higher speeds coming from the rear.
* They told me when I checked in last week at 64K that they wouldn't rotate the tires, but then they did. Said the technician this time felt they could be rotated. Now the rumbling noise is definitely coming from the front, but it is most noticeable between 15 and 30 or 35 mph.
My wife drives the care much more than I do. She thinks we shouldn't buying new tires until it becomes a tread issue. Questions:
(1) Assuming it is the tire and not the alignment, is cupping of one tire really not a safety issue if the tread depth is good?
(2) I have had better luck in the past with Yokohama tires than any other brand as far as grip, ride, noise level, and wear. Does anyone have a suggestion other than Yokohama in the same price range?
#206 of 265 Re: my drifting solved with new tires
Jun 22, 2009 (2:53 am)
After noticing the front tires were really worn (no wonder the leftward drift seemed to have lessened in the last several thousand miles) I decided to go to a Goodyear store and get two new front tires. Well they suggested puttin the rear tires on the front and the new ones on the back (themplan being that I would replave them down the road as I wasn't ready buy four tires sine I really had my doubts the new rubber would fix anything). Well...the drift was as bad as it ever was so I took it back and had them put the new tires on the front and it finally drove straight!!!!! I immediately HD them put two new ones on th rear so I have a ll new rubber and can now rotate normally
I guess on my situation the tires were defective. I'm amazed that at mo time did the dealers suggest this. The very most I would have insisted on was that they give a me a super discounted price on new tires or split the cost with me. I went throfuh so much grief with them over this I finally gave ip and just drove the car with the drift (the front tires wore because I didn't rotate them as I didn't want to risk alterring it once the dealer got it pulling slightly less last year). Anyhow I guess it is possible for the tires to have been bad from the get go.