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Toyota Matrix, Tires, Wheels, Wagon
#154 of 265 Toyota Matrix Tire Wear, 2006 Base model
May 24, 2008 (12:28 pm)
We own a 2006 base Matrix and have experienced the abnormal tire wear you describe exactly. Tires gone at 14k, lots of vibration, cupped tires, etc. Toyota was NO help in three visits. It appears that the problem originates from poor assembly at the Canadian plant. The jig welded strut mounts were miss aligned and therefore cause the miss alignment. The solution we used was adjustable camber bolts to compensate for the missalignment. They are not in the Toyota parts book, so Toyota will not install them.
We were forced to use an independent shop for the alignment and install because Toyota REFUSED to acknowledge the poor construction. We wanted to keep the car instead of selling it because of alignment problems. We have 25k on the new tires, even wear on all 4.
If you can get satisfaction from the dealer, good luck!! We solved the problem directly and received no compensation from Toyota. 80k tires gone in 14k?? No problem for Toyota.
We have also had major oil leaks in the motor and trans repaired 3 times under warranty. So much for legendary reliability.
Good Luck, you will need it to deal with Toyota Warranty work!!
#155 of 265 Me, too...I think, Camber Bolts, 06 base
May 24, 2008 (12:42 pm)
The Camber bolts solved the tire wear problem for us. I installed Moog Magna Cam, if I remember, Carquest PN K929. Unbolt the bottom camber bolt, install the adjustable bolt, go to the alignment shop, align the suspension.
We have 25k on the new Yokahama Avids, no abnormal wear.
Good luck, pack
#156 of 265 Re: Toyota Matrix Tire Wear, 2006 Base model [rocky101]
May 24, 2008 (12:51 pm)
Rocky, so glad you came back to this discussion. It was your original post that tipped me off to the issue in the first place.
Do you remember which Moog model camber bolts you purchased? I just ordered the Moog # K929; they also have another model that looks a little different, but it still is supposed to fit the Matrix.
Here are the two Moog models I've found: # K929 and # K90477.
I'm guessing that either one would work; I just went with the K929 since it promised a little more adjustment room (and also because you mentioned "MagnaCam" in a previous post, and that is used in the description of the K929 I've seen at online vendors)
I had no illusions that I'd go to Toyota about this...I gathered from all the posts that they weren't going to own up to it, so I knew I was on my own. That's why it's nice to have forums like this; I feel I have a shot at getting it fixed, thanks to posts like yours.
Take care, and thanks!
#157 of 265 Re: Me, too...I think, Camber Bolts, 06 base [rocky101]
May 24, 2008 (12:53 pm)
Excellent! Thanks, that's it exactly....our posts crossed!
#158 of 265 Re: Toyota Matrix Tire Wear [sunshine57]
May 27, 2008 (7:33 am)
I have a 2006 Matrix with 26500 on it with shot tires. I usually get an extra 10-20K on my tires. I have had problems with gas mileage, noise and transmission fliud. Turns out that the computer program is bad and they flipped out the computer but I had to pay for the early oil flush and the transmission flush (550)and now the tires (another 500).
The Corrollas and Matrix are known to have bad computers but I had to go to a different dealer to get it replace the original one wouldn't. They had the computer on hand and told me they are changing alot of them. If a dealer is stocking a 2000 part it is a major issue but Toyota is not doing a recall. If your transmission is not functioning properly tire wear increases.
#159 of 265 Re: Toyota Matrix Tire Wear [tamedsker]
May 31, 2008 (8:10 pm)
Well, Toyota had our Matrix for 2 days. They DID install a shim and adjustment kit for the rear end. They DID bring the car into factory spec alignment. They DID NOT replace the tires. They DID NOT charge or attempt to charge us for the repairs or the loner vehicle. The car now runs straight, smooth, and using a lot less fuel! We took a trip today that we make frequently, that until now used a 1/4 tank of gas with out using the A/C. Today it took 1/8 tank, and we had the A/C on for 1/2 of it. The car now handles like the 2007 Corolla that they gave us as a loaner! The secret? Contact an attorney who works with breach of warranty claims. We did. We haven't checked, but we think he contacted the dealer, because their attitudes turned 180 degrees, and they were tripping over themselves to get the repairs correct. For all of you who are frustrated by this problem, DO NOT GIVE UP! Be prepared to take it to the next level, as this seems to help. If you do not get satisfaction, TAKE IT TO THE NEXT LEVEL! Good luck to all!
Jun 01, 2008 (3:50 am)
Great news, tamedsker. Congrats!
It seems for some the front is the problem, and for you, the rear! Wish the problem was more consistent! Be easier to fix then.
Enjoy your new car!
#161 of 265 Re: Issue on all cars? [ashnohgrim]
Jun 26, 2008 (6:01 am)
Seems it is a design flaw with Matrix/Vibe. I have V-rated Pirelli-7, got them for my tire guy for 1/2 price $100/shoot (otherwise they are way too expensive), what a F%n waste of a tire.
The only thing that happened to me was that the noise did not come as fast as for most..., but it did:(
Itís an annoying humming noise that starts at 20mph and continues in to high-speed, when it gets a bit drowned out by other hwy noise.
At first I thought it maybe wheel bearing I changed both no change, itís not the differential as that noise stops with no load...
I see that every one is having the same problem.
What's going on with Toyota...
I think that the problem is with the 205 tire size, WHY WHY WHY 3-series BMW tire width size for a Corolla??? What idiot decided that?
I bet that regular corollas don't have this problem...
#162 of 265 What can we do about the toyota matrix tire problem
Jul 02, 2008 (6:30 am)
Everyone who has a problem with tires wearing prematurely need to make a complaint with the federal government. the link is below. If enough complaints are filed then the feds will force toyota to make a recall and correct the situation.
If you are having problem file a complaint numbers do count!
#163 of 265 Yes! File a complaint!
Jul 02, 2008 (8:35 pm)
Even though my problem seems to have been fixed, it is still important to file the complaint. Maybe this will stop the tire problem from affecting anyone else. Maybe, the government will force Toyota to re-imburse all those for the ruined tires!