Suzuki Wagon Electrical Problems

39 messages,  Last post on Nov 29, 2012 at 6:52 PM

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#20 of 39 Re: Tailgate electrical problem - are there others with this? [tornspeedo] by Muddycat

Nov 27, 2008 (7:15 am)

Replying to: tornspeedo (Nov 26, 2008 3:44 am)
Thanks - that's quite helpful. There is a location I've noticed where the wiring goes through a tube and from beneath the hatch floor to underneath the back seat - I was actually wondering whether the wires might be wearing a bit there, since it's directly in the path of friction every time the seats are lowered.
 
Any idea about the run-on issue? I've been told it may also be an issue of the engine running too rich?
 
Thanks again for your help - it's really appreciated.

#21 of 39 Re: Tailgate electrical problem - are there others with this? [Muddycat] by tornspeedo

Nov 27, 2008 (4:55 pm)

Replying to: Muddycat (Nov 27, 2008 7:15 am)
Electrical backfeeds are tricky devils.The run on could be another symptom of a bad tailgate ground also as the rear defroster and backup lights are both ignition controlled circuits and there is no ground to either it is possible that one(the defroster) is feeding through itself back around the ungrounded loop to the backuplight circuit,through the filaments thus keeping just enough voltage on that half of ign. to keep the ignition at above 6 volts,not enough to "latch" a fuel solenoid but certainly enough to keep said solonoid latched once already there.It is also important to test all under dash fuses as well as the ones under the hood near the battery.There is most likely an open ground somewhere either from engine to fender,or tailgate to wherever or both causing this myraid of issues.Also watch for water in the under dash fuses panel and that silver module at the base of the steering column.This was a similar issue I recently had.See numbers 11,12 and 19 in this thread.Good luck and happy holidays Muddycat, Torpedo out.

#22 of 39 Re: Tail lights and dash lights shorted [work4justice] by lrrystw

Jan 19, 2009 (8:02 am)

Replying to: work4justice (Apr 16, 2008 6:07 pm)
Did you ever resolve this issue. I am having the exact same problem with my 2003 aerio sx it started a couple of weeks ago

#23 of 39 Re: AERIO SX 2003 temp and clock light. [dmiller_34] by lrrystw

Jan 19, 2009 (9:05 am)

Replying to: dmiller_34 (Jun 03, 2006 8:21 am)
Hello, did you ever get this issue resolved? I have another issue the fuse for the taillights, sidemarkers and part of the dash keeps blowing. The funny thing is when it blows the backlight for the clock comes on. Figure that out

#24 of 39 Re: Tail lights and dash lights shorted [lrrystw] by work4justice

Jan 19, 2009 (12:19 pm)

Replying to: lrrystw (Jan 19, 2009 8:02 am)
I had a real good mechanic look for days to figure it out and finallbroke down and took it to a dealer. IT took them a week to fix it. There was a switch in the steering column that went but they also found a problem in the wiring harness in the headlights. Whey the problem took a few years to surface is beyond me but that is the story they gave me. They did not charge me full price to fix it as I could have bought a new car with the labor expense. I was in constant contact with them on it and told them if the cost to fix it was going to be too high I would rather trade it in for a new one. They charged me $500 or so. I think the switch they replaced was about $200

#25 of 39 How do you open the hatch back when the key and remote fails to work. by mrslip1234

May 13, 2009 (4:31 pm)

How do you open the hatch back when the key and remote fails to work. I have tried to open the back in many ways but am unsucsessfull. MY left rear tail light is out, it may be related to this problem. please help.
The only thing I can do is try to take off the inner rear door panel to see if I can pull the releas mechanism. The drivers manual has no release listed for the hatchback just the sedan. I am hoping I can get it to open .
 
any thoughts

#26 of 39 Re: How do you open the hatch back when the key and remote fails to work. [mrslip1234] by carthell

May 13, 2009 (6:04 pm)

Replying to: mrslip1234 (May 13, 2009 4:31 pm)
The back hatch can also be released via the power door lock switch on the driver's door, Open the doors twice in rapid succession. You should hear another "clunk" from the back lock on the second open. Also remember that the rubber trim around the hatch edge can be (for me, at least) so sticky at times that you can be fooled into believing that the hatch is still locked. Put a little more muscle into opening the hatch.
 
If you truly can't open the door manually from the key slot on the hatch that would imply that a control rod in the lock mechanism has loosened significantly, keeping you from opening the hatch conventionally. There are two anchors and some bolts that help hold the plastic trim to the hatch located along the edges of the hatch door (I also looked at my car to confirm the locations), and are very hard (if near-impossible) to get to while the hatch is closed. If the hatch simply isn't stuck in place by the rubber trim, you'll have to start (argh!) cutting into the hatch's interior plastic cover to get to the lock mechanism.

#27 of 39 Re: How do you open the hatch back when the key and remote fails to work. [mrslip1234] by tornspeedo

May 13, 2009 (6:04 pm)

Replying to: mrslip1234 (May 13, 2009 4:31 pm)
These wagons/hatchbacks are known for having a loose ground to hatch. You may try an alligator type jumper wire from a known ground to the hatch then try the electric release. It concerns me that the key will not operate the hatch as if the linkage may have fallen off inside the hatch. The key as far as I know is completely independant of the electrical issue and should be mechanically connected to the release mechanisim.Another trick would be to turn the rear wiper on, and with the ignition off try the release button. This would "fool' ground the hatch to the de-energized iginition circuit which at that point(ign off) is one big ground. Good luck...I think you will be pullin that inner panel if none of these work. DT

#28 of 39 Re: How do you open the hatch back when the key and remote fails to work. [carthell] by mrslip1234

May 13, 2009 (10:02 pm)

Replying to: carthell (May 13, 2009 6:04 pm)
Thanks, I have tried the electric door from either remote or key at the front drivers side hitting it twice as you suggested, It didnt work.
  I hope I dont have to cut the panel But I am not far away from trying that.I will try that when I get off night shift.

#29 of 39 Re: How do you open the hatch back when the key and remote fails to work. [tornspeedo] by mrslip1234

May 13, 2009 (10:05 pm)

Replying to: tornspeedo (May 13, 2009 6:04 pm)
good Idea, an alligator jumper. and or the rear wiper alsoo cool idea.
 
I will let you guys know tommorow night thanks very much
md
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