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#73 of 82 Re: Ask Mitsubishi [m1miata] by 62vetteefp

Sep 07, 2006 (4:45 am)

Replying to: m1miata (Sep 06, 2006 6:59 pm)
All things being equal, the warranty is at least better at Hyundai.
 
Ahh, but is it? Depends on who is buying. Hyundai is only 10 years/100,000 miles if the original owner keeps it that long. If they sell the car the long warranty is not transferable. If sold it is 5/60k. I guess we could say that for 75% of buyers (sell before 5 years) the powertrain warranties are equal (to GM) unless you drive more than 60,000 miles in 5 years.
 
They do have a great 5 year/60K bumper to bumper which I think is the best in the business.
 
So I guess I can agree that for almost every new buyer the Hyundai warranty is arguably better. However a used buyer looking at a 3-4 year old car that has a lot of miles on it and/or will put a lot of miles on it, may see the 100k powertrain warranty as better.
 
In the end I think a new buyer comparing the GM to Hyundai warranties would give a nod to Hyundai. But then again I think GM is more worried about the other competitors out there like Ford/Chrysler/Toyota/Accord.
 
Covers repair or replacement of powertrain components (i.e. selected Engine and Transmission/Transaxle components), originally manufactured or installed by Hyundai that are defective in material or factory workmanship, under normal use and maintenance. Coverage applies to Original Owner only effective with 2004 Model Year and newer model year vehicles. On 1999-2003 Model Years, coverage applies to Original Owner and immediate family members (i.e. wife, husband, daughter, son, stepdaughter, stepson).
 
Second and/or subsequent owners have powertrain components coverage under the 5 year / 60,000 mile New Vehicle Limited Warranty. Excludes coverage for vehicles in commercial use (i.e. taxi, route delivery, delivery service, rental, etc.).

#74 of 82 Toyota's warranty by imidazol97

Sep 07, 2006 (12:03 pm)

ScionTc
 
>90% of your Scion, you will run into the most bizarre warranty issue I ever saw. After complaining to Scion Corp about it I got the following official response. -- "Dealerships are independently owned franchises who will warrant Scion supplied accessories that become necessary due to a manufacturers defect. However, they are not required to warrant another dealerships work. If you are experiencing concerns on your dealership installed alarm, I would recommend taking your vehicle to the dealership where you had the alarm installed.. ." Unlike a Toyota where you get factory options delivered with your new car, Scion makes you have a lame dealer install them.
 
So tell me again what's wrong with GM's lengthening their powertrain warranty? At least they stand behind it.

#75 of 82 Re: Toyota's warranty [imidazol97] by rorr

Sep 07, 2006 (12:19 pm)

Replying to: imidazol97 (Sep 07, 2006 12:03 pm)
"So tell me again what's wrong with GM's lengthening their powertrain warranty? At least they stand behind it."
 
I think there's a slight difference between a manufacturer's powertrain warranty and a warranty on dealer installed accessories. Unless, of course, you consider GM powertrains to BE a dealer installed accessory......?
 
But now I'm curious: if you have a dealer-installed accessory on a GM vehicle, does the warranty on that item cover the installation regardless of where it was installed?
 
BTW - kudos to GM for extending their warranty. Personally, I think it's a huge step in the right direction.

#76 of 82 Re: Toyota's warranty [rorr] by 62vetteefp

Sep 07, 2006 (12:32 pm)

Replying to: rorr (Sep 07, 2006 12:19 pm)
But now I'm curious: if you have a dealer-installed accessory on a GM vehicle, does the warranty on that item cover the installation regardless of where it was installed?
 
yes, as long as it was a GM dealer. click on peace of mind when it comes up. I canonly assume that the Buick/Cadillac vehicle acc. warranty would be 4 years.
 
http://www.gmgoodwrench.com/accessoriesjsp/home.jsp

#77 of 82 Re: Toyota's warranty [62vetteefp] by rorr

Sep 07, 2006 (1:40 pm)

Replying to: 62vetteefp (Sep 07, 2006 12:32 pm)
Thanks.
 
Seems like Toyota should step up to the plate then and warranty the installation performed by the Scion dealers and not just the parts.

#78 of 82 Well... by plekto

Sep 07, 2006 (11:00 am)

It does address one item that was responsible for massive sales losses - the gasket problems. If those are covered, then people will start to see GM as being worthy of a second look.
 
Yes - almsot everyone knows about the problems. You can't find a 3-5 year old used Buick with the dex-cool in it that isn't brown and/or sludgy - and everyone knows it.
 
Oh, look - the intake maniford ate itself at 80K miles... Oh well - not my problem...
 
P.S. you'll note that Hyundai's warranty now only covers 100K miles if the original purchaser is the only driver. It's all smoke an marketing. GM - they'll stand by them.
 
BTW, my 87 LeSabre lasted until 16 years and 137K miles before it needed major engine work. My mother's 2001 LeSabre by comparison is rapidly approaching 100K miles and still drives very much like new. Totally bulletproof if boring engines.
 
Plus, $3000-$3500 to fix a Camry or Lexus automatic? The GM 4-speed is nothing if not inexpensive to fix. I know places that will rebuild one for $800 here in Los Angeles.
 
I'd have bought the Malibu based upon that alone. With a 100K mile drivetrain warranty, that's a free transmission at 80-90K!
 
Lstly - about the RX-8, it's NOT A SPORTSCAR. It looks like one, but it's a sports-sedan liek the Audi A4 is. Very nice and so what if the rear doors are suicide-style? It's fun and you see very few of them on the road compared to Camrys.

#79 of 82 Re: Well... [plekto] by 62vetteefp

Sep 07, 2006 (11:37 am)

Replying to: plekto (Sep 07, 2006 11:00 am)
Very nice and so what if the rear doors are suicide-style
 
do you have to open the front doors to open the rear doors? What a pain for a family if so.
 
besides its ugly!!! IMO

#80 of 82 Re: Well... [plekto] by m1miata

Sep 07, 2006 (12:38 pm)

Replying to: plekto (Sep 07, 2006 11:00 am)
Well I beg to differ. Hyundai warranty is spelled out plain terms:
http://www.hyundaiusa.com/global/warranty/warranty.aspx
This is longer bumper to bumper warranty, and the secondary owner does get a 5 year / 60K warranty. The GM warranty is only a half measure. What is to cover all the other problems with the car after 36K miles? Seems to fall some 24K short. And what of the 100,000 miles warranty, which is for 5 yrs, and 5 yrs. shorter. Simply talking warranty here and not which car is better.
 
As for the RX-8, I would class it as a four seater sports car. It will out handle the A4, and has the correct drive wheels. It is a sedan in that it has a door which opens, but is really more coupe like. It goes beyond a grand touring in handling. It is really in a class of its own. If they made one in a non-rotary version which got a few more MPG, I may consider one. Don't care for the gas mileage and having to add oil.
-Loren

#81 of 82 re: longer warranty [wlbrown9] by thegraduate

Sep 11, 2006 (10:33 am)

Replying to: wlbrown9 (Sep 08, 2006 1:51 pm)
Don't really like mini-vans...had an early Nissan Quest..pretty good, but would rather stay with the SUV type. Towing (occasionally) utility trailer with up to 5000 pounds...locally and usually not that much though.
 
Well then, it looks like you are stuck in the low-mileage vehicles then; minivans get much better mileage than their more-bulky and less-space-efficient SUV counterparts. If towing more than 3,500 pounds though, you have to move up to a guzzler. Some people can't get past the "stigma" of driving a van. If you are defined by what you drive, then you have issues (I don't mean you specifically, FYI ) that go deeper than car-shopping.
 
I'm 19, and loved driving our Odyssey (lots of power, lots of room for my 6'4" frame, and those cool power doors; it just wasn't "cool."

#82 of 82 Re: Arcadia styling [xrunner2] by rockylee

Sep 13, 2006 (6:58 am)

Replying to: xrunner2 (Sep 07, 2006 6:55 am)
Does this mean that if the Democrats win the House they will connive with the oil companies to raise gas prices? I guess that this makes sense since they are always wanting to take more of our paychecks with bigger taxes and other schemes.
 
Ummm, no !
 
Rocky

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