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ABS $x$ and axle problems by sarahfromsc
Feb 06, 2008 (3:59 pm)
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I am looking at a bill for $816.00 to fix my brake system (ABS light came on), the 4x4 system (service 4x4 message came on), and a module found in the front axle (no message came on for this). I only have 42,000 miles on this truck.
 
I have repeatedly taken the truck in for squeaking noise in the front end (I even said I thought it was in the axle, but of course the service tech looked at me with the deer in the headlight look....and not even looking me in the eye...another story). I have had the truck in the shop repeatedly for a grinding noise come from the back breaks and a shuddering when I break.
 
I have looked on the alldatadiy web site and noticed several TSBs that fit the problems I have. If I were to take these bulletins in, would the dealership be more helpful?
 
What the devil does the module in the axle do?
 
I have even lemon lawed this vehicle for transmission issues and other electrical problems.
 
Any ideas?
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Re: ABS $x$ and axle problems [sarahfromsc] by mecheng1
Feb 07, 2008 (8:24 am)
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Replying to: sarahfromsc (Feb 06, 2008 3:59 pm)

At 42,000 you are in a tough spot. The dealers hands are somewhat tied and you need to contact a Ford Regional Person (exact job title ???) If you can have the dealer document any fault codes that were produced by the FEH's computer, then along with the TSBs, and any decriptions of the diagnosis and work performed......take all that to Ford and if you can match any of what you saw previous with what was eventually fixed.....then it would be up to the "Regional" Ford person to pay for the work via what they call a "good will" service. Once the dealer knows that Ford will pay the bill....they are usually more responsive, etc.
 
Good Luck.
#90 of 131
Regen Brakes Disabled - Warning by escape08
Mar 10, 2008 (2:03 am)
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Hello, I have a new 08 FEH which has been giving me a chime and 'REGEN BRAKES DISABLED' warning every day on every journey the first time I come to complete stop. The only way I can then clear this and restore regenerative braking is to switch off the vehicle and restart with the key. Otherwise I only get friction brakes for the rest of the journey. Can any owners please advise how often this warning has appeared in their experience? I am operating the vehicle in 50 - 60F and this occurs at any battery state. Thank you very much.
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Re: Regen Brakes Disabled - Warning [escape08] by maksime
Mar 11, 2008 (2:21 pm)
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Replying to: escape08 (Mar 10, 2008 2:03 am)

Hi there.
 
Braking action is divided between the regen braking system and the conventional hydraulic system. The ABS unit determines the necessary amount of braking supplied by each system by evaluating inputs such as the vehicle speed and the operator's braking request, determined by accelerator pedal and brake pedal position.
 
In essence when you let go the acc pedal or press on the brake pedal, the ABS sends a signal to the powertrain control module (PCM) to provide braking action by regen braking, and it does so up to a specific limit. Additional braking required which the regen braking cannot supply is then obtained by the ABS through the conventional hydraulic system.
 
Where I am going with this? Your ABS might not be (or not properly) getting the input necessary to request regen braking, which prevents calculations and, as a safety measure, gives you back full control of hydraulic brakes.
 
You might want to get it to a Ford dealer so they could perhaps obtain a fault code for diagnostic. You might need re programming.
 
Hope this helps, please write back the outcome.
 
Good luck
#92 of 131
Brake noise 2008 FEH by cloftus
Apr 06, 2008 (5:08 am)
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My problem seems trivial and I wonder if it is normal? When the car has been parked overnight or at least several hours I get a short, metal noise while backing up when I apply my brake. It lasts a second or two.
 
I would like your opinions.
 
thanks!
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Re: Brake noise 2008 FEH [cloftus] by mecheng1
Apr 07, 2008 (12:45 pm)
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Replying to: cloftus (Apr 06, 2008 5:08 am)

Hard to tell from your limited description but,
 
It is not too uncommon for a parking brake that has been engaged overnight to stick in place somewhat even after it has been released....and then unstick, sometimes with a thud or other noises, as the car begins to roll.
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police siren noise - sounds like - with front brakes by jurdean
May 13, 2008 (12:40 pm)
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I have a 2006 Ford Escape Hybrid 4WD. It's in for service since last Friday at a local dealership. I had it in mainly for the recall. That job was done within 2 hours. It's still there, because of a noise I noticed coming from the front when braking. It only occurs when braking. Does not matter either at high or low speed. It sounds like a very low police siren noise - like a whistling sound. If I take my foot off the brake pedal - it stops. It's only when braking. It's been in the shop now since Friday. I called the dealership yesterday. They told me it's now in the hands of Ford Engineering. The vehicle is still young, with only approximately 10,500 miles on it. The noise is not terrible - it's just that I don't want to have a problem after the "warranty" period is up. I'm going to pick up the vehicle tomorrow. Until service gets back to me. I thought it was a accumulation of brake dust. But no one said that. Then I read about the rear brake pads wearing faster than the front. But I don't think it's coming from the rear. Because I hear it on the highway, at cruising speeds - when applying the brakes, with the front windows partially down. Any ideas where it's coming from? This Ford dealership is good. They've earned the "fix it right the first time" certification.
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Re: police siren noise - sounds like - with front brakes [jurdean] by mecheng1
May 14, 2008 (5:06 am)
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Replying to: jurdean (May 13, 2008 12:40 pm)

They are probably investigating the regenerative braking components for the source of the noise. They are located inside the eCVT (transmission). Every time you hit the brake you engage the regenerative brakes to charge the HVBattery. Different shift knob positions engage the brakes in different amounts. If you heard the noise when braking in "D" and then hit the brakes again after shifting to "N" - that would be a significant clue.
#96 of 131
Re: Regen Brakes Disabled - Warning [maksime] by possum1031
Jun 17, 2008 (3:06 pm)
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Replying to: maksime (Mar 11, 2008 2:21 pm)

I just had this happen to me. I took it to the dealer. They said it was the trip sensor in the master cylinder and they replaced it. It is still under warranty. I have about 22K on the vehicle.
#97 of 131
Re: Regen Brakes Disabled - Warning [possum1031] by jurdean
Jun 19, 2008 (7:54 am)
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Replying to: possum1031 (Jun 17, 2008 3:06 pm)

Please be more specific. ?Trip sensor in master cylinder. You got a warning message or did you hear a strange noise.
My vehicle has only 11,000 miles logged on it. It just had the eCVT transmission replaced. I was hearing a whistling noise - like a siren - low pitch while the vehicle was travelling. 2 Detroit Hybrid familiar engineers came out to my local dealership to hear for themselves. They diagnosed that I needed a new transmission. Brand new transmission. There's no rebuilt here.....
I have now gotten much better gas mileage. But I think I still hear the noise. I'm not sure though. I'm trying to ascertain whether the Trip Sensor in Master Cylinder might be the culprit. Thank you for responding.

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