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#80 of 131 Re: Braking problem need help and comments [bubkis] by atreehugger Dec 27, 2007 (6:23 am)
Replying to: bubkis (Nov 29, 2007 1:51 pm) Hi - just wanted to tell you you did the right thing. Ford refuses to acknowledge a problem with the braking system. Their dealers have no awareness of the problem. I had no warning when I lost my brakes except the annoying "grabbing" every time it rained or was dewy in the morning. They replaced the master cylinder and then when I took them to the Better Business Bureau Ford called it my "alleged brake problem". Every time I talked to someone at Ford they called it my "brake issue" as if it were a faulty window or a broken tail light. I lost at the Better Business Bureau because I did not lose my brakes 4 times! Ford offered me an extended warranty (with a $100 deductible!!!). Big Deal - I'm a high mileage driver and would be out of that in 3 years anyway. I told them the warranty would be cold comfort to my husband when I was in my casket or to some mother whose child I had run over. I loved the SUV, I loved the 4WD, I loved the mileage (27-30), I especially loved driving a hybrid. I traded it in on a non-hybrid SUV. If I every buy another Ford I hope someone takes a 2x4 to my head. What bothers me is someone else is out there driving it!   There is a design flaw. Check out NHTSA/ODI. All FEH model years have had complete brake failures - 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008. Replies to this message: css1008 (Feb 26, 2009 8:16 am)
#81 of 131 Hybrid brake problems by rintveld Jan 01, 2008 (6:15 pm)
Seem to have some extreme wear on rear brake pads on 2005 escape hybrid. Is this common? Dealer didn't know about it. Questioned if moisture is a factor. Replies to this message: mecheng1 (Jan 02, 2008 7:27 am) rintveld (Jan 02, 2008 10:38 am)
#82 of 131 Re: Hybrid brake problems [rintveld] by mecheng1 Jan 02, 2008 (7:27 am)
Replying to: rintveld (Jan 01, 2008 6:15 pm) What is your mileage? Ford predicts the rear pads will wear out twice as fast as the front pads. What you are seeing may be from normal hybrid-style driving. Replies to this message: rintveld (Jan 02, 2008 10:38 am)
#83 of 131 Re: Hybrid brake problems [mecheng1] by rintveld Jan 02, 2008 (10:38 am)
Replying to: mecheng1 (Jan 02, 2008 7:27 am) 65,000 mostly highway.
#84 of 131 Hybrid brake wear by mschmal Jan 02, 2008 (3:33 pm)
If you have brake wear, you are not driving in the most efficient manner possible.   You need to maximize your regenerative braking. Start braking sooner so that you don't have to press the brake as hard.   When ever you are costing, you should lightly press the brake pedal, this will start the regenerative braking process.   Mark
#85 of 131 FEH 06 RECALL BAT HAR AND ? ABS by feh06 Jan 20, 2008 (10:59 am)
I purchased 2006 model FEH 06 found out it was a 2005 build out. i have had many issues with this car and if anyone can shed some light it would be great.   Last week - I had the whole system light up all the electronics and gizmos - then on the disply - SAFE TO STOP. The car has over 55k on it. FORD wanted 90 per hour and 90 to put on the computer to determine problem. I was not happy and then they said there was a recall on the BAT Harness. which may have caused all the electronic failures. And then the ABS light comes on - they advised that this was not part of the problem and computer indicates that it is some where in the rear axle and could not determine if it is the rear or R or L.   I find this strange and now my regen is not working and they 400-900 to repair the ABS.   Can anyone give me options is this a part you chang out yourself and has there been a trend with the brake issues with the FEH 06 models made in 2005   Thanks   NOT HAPPY WITH THIS VEH - have not had good MPH Replies to this message: mecheng1 (Jan 22, 2008 11:57 am)
#86 of 131 Re: FEH 06 RECALL BAT HAR AND ? ABS [feh06] by mecheng1 Jan 22, 2008 (11:57 am)
Replying to: feh06 (Jan 20, 2008 10:59 am) The first FEHs were built and sold through the summer fall and winter of 2004 as 2005MY. Every year since then, Ford has started to build the next year in the Fall of the previous year. I don't think your vehicle is so unique in that manner. For instance, the 2008 FEHs have been being delivered to folks for over 6 months now, starting early in calendar year 2007. I would estimate that close to half of all MY-s were built in the previous CY.   Hard to advise you on what to do with the limited diagnosis you have been given, to be sure, the components in the axle related to the brakes are not hybrid unique...the Smart Junction Box that controls braking functions has been known to fail. The ABS (computer) does have a rather complex software that controls braking functions and that needs to be updated or maybe "re-flashed" to insure it is the correct configuration for your VIN#. Also, I've seen some reports of master brake cylinder change-outs that were required to solve some FEH brake problems.   Three components: HVBattery, eCVT(transmission), and DC to DC converter are warranteed for 8 years or 100,000 miles minimum. Regeneration occurs entirely within the eCVT....as controlled by the ABS computers.   Good Luck
#87 of 131 Regenerative braking is covered under warranty by mschmal Jan 22, 2008 (4:00 pm)
I think your dealer is trying to *#$ you.   In no Cal Emissions states, the complete hybrid system has a 8 year or 100,000 mile warranty, the Ca Emission cars have an additional 10 year or 150,000 mile warranty on the HV battery.   You need to go to a different dealer.   Mark.
#88 of 131 ABS $x$ and axle problems by sarahfromsc Feb 06, 2008 (3:59 pm)
I am looking at a bill for $816.00 to fix my brake system (ABS light came on), the 4x4 system (service 4x4 message came on), and a module found in the front axle (no message came on for this). I only have 42,000 miles on this truck.   I have repeatedly taken the truck in for squeaking noise in the front end (I even said I thought it was in the axle, but of course the service tech looked at me with the deer in the headlight look....and not even looking me in the eye...another story). I have had the truck in the shop repeatedly for a grinding noise come from the back breaks and a shuddering when I break.   I have looked on the alldatadiy web site and noticed several TSBs that fit the problems I have. If I were to take these bulletins in, would the dealership be more helpful?   What the devil does the module in the axle do?   I have even lemon lawed this vehicle for transmission issues and other electrical problems.   Any ideas? Replies to this message: mecheng1 (Feb 07, 2008 8:24 am)
#89 of 131 Re: ABS $x$ and axle problems [sarahfromsc] by mecheng1 Feb 07, 2008 (8:24 am)
Replying to: sarahfromsc (Feb 06, 2008 3:59 pm) At 42,000 you are in a tough spot. The dealers hands are somewhat tied and you need to contact a Ford Regional Person (exact job title ???) If you can have the dealer document any fault codes that were produced by the FEH's computer, then along with the TSBs, and any decriptions of the diagnosis and work performed......take all that to Ford and if you can match any of what you saw previous with what was eventually fixed.....then it would be up to the "Regional" Ford person to pay for the work via what they call a "good will" service. Once the dealer knows that Ford will pay the bill....they are usually more responsive, etc.   Good Luck.

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