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There is a seperate light for bad gas cap.
by mschmal
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Dec 13, 2007 (3:12 pm)
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Also the"wrench" light is related to the electronic throttle.
Mark
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Re: Escape Hybrid on fire! [imacabbie]
by teester
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Dec 17, 2007 (7:15 am)
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Replying to: imacabbie (Dec 05, 2007 10:05 pm)
Considering this is ONLY the back brakes and the one post said it was San Francisco with lots of hills.
Any chance it might be the parking brake being froze up? I've had many cars where the rear parking brake cable will freeze up and the parking brakes will be on all the time. That could head up the rotors pretty bad and might cause other failures.
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- #77 of 131
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Re: Escape Hybrid on fire! [teester]
by autodr
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Dec 19, 2007 (5:36 pm)
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Replying to: teester (Dec 17, 2007 7:15 am)
Well, the ABS module "prefers" to apply the rear brakes first on this vehicle because the front wheels are using regenerative braking. So I can see lots of stop and go heating up the rear and never even engaging the front. In fact, on an Escape Hybrid, it is normal to wear 2 sets of rear pads to one set of front. Then, factor in the issue of this thing having a check engine light on and wrench light on for an as-yet unknown reason, this vehicle might just smoke the rear again.
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Re: Update on FEH Taxi that caught fire [imacabbie]
by autodr
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Dec 19, 2007 (5:44 pm)
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Replying to: imacabbie (Dec 12, 2007 1:54 pm)
Like I said before. The brake system on this vehicle is not like the brake system on a conventional vehicle. The amount of regenerative braking (to recharge the HV battery) and the amount of friction braking is determined first by the PCM and then the friction braking is carried out by the ABS module based on command from the PCM. The "check engine light" (you are calling an emissions light), and the wrench light are both warning indicators of the PCM to say "Hey dude, I'm having a problem properly running this engine... get me checked out". In your case, that CAN effect the brakes since it is the PCM that determines how much friction braking occurs versus regen braking. It also determines how much rear fiction occurs versus front friction. It just depends on why the lights are on as to whether or not it will effect the brakes.
You really seriously need to take this vehicle to a qualified shop to check it out. If your company's garage can't... which I'm getting the feeling they can't otherwise they'd have done it by now... you need to take it somewhere. It doesn't HAVE to be the dealer, but it needs to be someone who has had Hybrid Escape training and that by default might mean the dealer.
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Re: Braking problem need help and comments [bubkis]
by atreehugger
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Dec 27, 2007 (6:23 am)
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Replying to: bubkis (Nov 29, 2007 1:51 pm)
Hi - just wanted to tell you you did the right thing. Ford refuses to acknowledge a problem with the braking system. Their dealers have no awareness of the problem. I had no warning when I lost my brakes except the annoying "grabbing" every time it rained or was dewy in the morning. They replaced the master cylinder and then when I took them to the Better Business Bureau Ford called it my "alleged brake problem". Every time I talked to someone at Ford they called it my "brake issue" as if it were a faulty window or a broken tail light. I lost at the Better Business Bureau because I did not lose my brakes 4 times! Ford offered me an extended warranty (with a $100 deductible!!!). Big Deal - I'm a high mileage driver and would be out of that in 3 years anyway. I told them the warranty would be cold comfort to my husband when I was in my casket or to some mother whose child I had run over. I loved the SUV, I loved the 4WD, I loved the mileage (27-30), I especially loved driving a hybrid. I traded it in on a non-hybrid SUV. If I every buy another Ford I hope someone takes a 2x4 to my head. What bothers me is someone else is out there driving it!
There is a design flaw. Check out NHTSA/ODI. All FEH model years have had complete brake failures - 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008.
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Hybrid brake problems
by rintveld
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Jan 01, 2008 (6:15 pm)
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Seem to have some extreme wear on rear brake pads on 2005 escape hybrid. Is this common? Dealer didn't know about it. Questioned if moisture is a factor.
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Re: Hybrid brake problems [rintveld]
by mecheng1
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Jan 02, 2008 (7:27 am)
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Replying to: rintveld (Jan 01, 2008 6:15 pm)
What is your mileage? Ford predicts the rear pads will wear out twice as fast as the front pads. What you are seeing may be from normal hybrid-style driving. 
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Re: Hybrid brake problems [mecheng1]
by rintveld
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Jan 02, 2008 (10:38 am)
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Replying to: mecheng1 (Jan 02, 2008 7:27 am)
65,000 mostly highway.
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- #84 of 131
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Hybrid brake wear
by mschmal
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Jan 02, 2008 (3:33 pm)
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If you have brake wear, you are not driving in the most efficient manner possible.
You need to maximize your regenerative braking. Start braking sooner so that you don't have to press the brake as hard.
When ever you are costing, you should lightly press the brake pedal, this will start the regenerative braking process.
Mark
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