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You are in the Ford Escape Hybrid
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Ford Escape Hybrid, Brakes, SUV
#161 of 182 Re: FEH Brake Problem [wantasafecar]
Jan 07, 2012 (1:38 pm)
I have also had brake failure on a 2009 Ford Escape Hybrid. Two weeks ago, at 50,000 miles and just back from the dealer's service, the brakes failed at start-up: very little braking action and a warning on the dash. I drove it around the block and went through four stop signs. I had it towed back to the dealer, where it has been ever since. The technician there found a code for "over-extended brake pedal" -- naturally the result when the brakes fail and the pedal goes to the floor. The service manager says they cannot duplicate the failure despite frequent attempts, and that Ford will not authorize repair unless they can see the failure for themselves. The "Customer Service" Manager at Ford headquarters, implies that Ford's engineers are unaware of this kind of problem and have no explanation for it -- a position that is belied by the many posts at this site. The dealer's technician was more honest: he said "We can't replace the system without Ford's approval, and they won't approve that because of the high-dollar parts." But I have a high-dollar life.
I agree with those who say that a class-action suit is appropriate. Better now than after someone is killed.
In the meantime, I am taking my case to the Bureau of Automotive Repair of the California Department of Consumer Affairs.
#162 of 182 Re: Ford Escape Hybrid: Brake Problems [pf_flyer]
Jan 13, 2012 (3:16 pm)
Brakes working fine on my 2005. Curious if you can operate the vehicle without any hybrid battery life. Can you disable the hybrid so as to not replace batteries when they finally go?
#163 of 182 Re: Ford Escape Hybrid: Brake Problems [shoemad77221]
Jan 13, 2012 (3:26 pm)
"Brakes working fine on my 2005. Curious if you can operate the vehicle without any hybrid battery life. Can you disable the hybrid so as to not replace batteries when they finally go? "
No. The battery has to be working for the vehicle to move.
#164 of 182 Re: 2005 FEH brake issue: locked then codes :( [willieinmaine]
Jan 15, 2012 (10:14 am)
First, "my shop"....
Second....Siezed/stuck brake caliper piston at 187,000 should be considered a normal failure.
The calipers should have been inspected/replaced/rebuilt at that initial brake service.
Lastly..."your shop" began a brake fluid proceedure without knowing, or knowing how, to completely bleed a system as complex as is the FEH.
#165 of 182 Re: 2005 FEH brake issue: locked then codes :( [wwest]
Jan 15, 2012 (2:44 pm)
Did you not read that one Ford dealer wanted $1500 for master cylinder to tell me that I then might need a $4000 HCU? And that another Ford dealer figured it out for $176?
I think our point here is to learn about this problem and how to deal with it without getting in an accident or getting ripped off.
What is your point?
Jan 26, 2012 (9:07 pm)
I also have a failed ABS system...just had the ground wire and battery replaced and a day later got the service brake message. Searching Google I found a couple used for sale for around $200. The description says:
ABS Control Module/Pump
Assm; Hybrid, 4WD
Fits: 2006 Ford Escape
assembly; Hybrid, 4WD
I checked Motorcraft website that shows the price at $3125. The dealer quoted 3,700 plus 400 to install.
Can a used one work?
What prices are you being quoted for the part?
I plan on selling this car within the month. Dont really want to put a lot more into this POS.
#167 of 182 Re: Used ABS Module? [patrick100]
Jan 27, 2012 (9:52 am)
Sequence of events does not lead me to the belief that something has HARD failed.
Look to "what changed"....
#168 of 182 Re: Used ABS Module? [patrick100]
Jan 27, 2012 (10:15 am)
i would also be interested in replacing this with a used one and selling the car. i have had this same problem for 5 years now.
#169 of 182 Re: Used ABS Module? [dsteak]
Jan 27, 2012 (1:12 pm)
I saw a post somewhere where someone had bought a used one, had their mechanic install it and when they took it to the Dealer to get the lines bleed (you need special equipment) they said they couldn't program it. Might be pretty risky to go used.
#170 of 182 Re: 2005 FEH brake issue: locked then codes :( [dsteak]
Aug 15, 2012 (11:39 am)
2nd year in a row our brakes have failed in our 2010 Hybrid. Brakes failing on a vehicle 1 time is 1 too many. Our teenager drives this car and I can't imagine this new driver being in the car when this has happened. I will not stop until this known problem is fixed. I cannot believe no one has been hurt yet in this vehicle or that Ford is willing to risk this.
I have started the escalation process.