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Ford Escape Hybrid Brake Problems

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Anyone experiencing harsh ride with their Hybrid by jurdean
Jul 14, 2009 (3:24 pm)
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Following the tire pressure placard on door- noticed that my Escape rides "rough". I think it's the shocks. Is it possible that the shocks were set up with lower tire pressures at the factory.
I do not expect a "car-like" ride w/ this vehicle but these SUV's - Escape to me included - should ride like a car. At least when I took the test drive.
Well - maybe I should think "truck" suspension here.
Is it a tradeoff here - to get better gas mileage - you have to keep the tires at 36 PSI.
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Re: FEH brake problem: ad nauseum [jurdean] by scalabilitydab
Jul 15, 2009 (12:30 pm)
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Replying to: jurdean (Jul 14, 2009 3:17 pm)

I have never received a recall notice for my vehicle. IN fact, when I mentioned several recall notices regarding this issue I was told it "doesn't apply to your vehicle because they doesn't specifically mention hybrids". My problem with pulling over and stopping the car is that I have a 3,000 foot elevation drop between my house and my office with several 10% grade areas with no shoulder. It's not a safe area to be driving and have brakes fail. And when this does occur, I have about 10% of my normal braking capability (and that's probably on the lenient side). Anyway, got the car back yesterday and drove from Denver to Dallas. No problems so far...
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'07 Mariner Hybrid...I spot it....so I got it. by wilcox
Jul 23, 2009 (4:39 pm)
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Have been reading about brake issues on Mariner and FEH's AWD's. Thanks for your concerns and advice.
 
  Our Mariner has a tad over 47k miles. This week there have been two occasions at startup when "service brake..." message flashed and vehicle would not start. It also made some weird noises in operation at an intersection.
 
I have the camera close by and the next time it gives me a warning...I'll take a picture of the message/code.
 
 If the dealer tells me some baloney about there's nothing wrong,,,using the ' doubting Thomas bit'...then, when he or she is finished blabbering, then I'll produce the photo evidence.
 
I know they're going to try their best to have me chase my tail for 6 months...or, if brakes fail, end up being part of my funeral...
 
Heirs can participate in lawsuit..and become millionaires on my behalf....Aaahaha
 
I'm partial to Ford products and hope they don't try to screw me on this issue.
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Re: '07 Mariner Hybrid...I spot it....so I got it. [wilcox] by andys120
Jul 24, 2009 (4:20 am)
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Replying to: wilcox (Jul 23, 2009 4:39 pm)

If the dealer tells me some baloney about there's nothing wrong,,,using the ' doubting Thomas bit'...then, when he or she is finished blabbering, then I'll produce the photo evidence.
 
That seems like the long way around. If your dealer won't simply hook 'er up to the scanner to look for trouble codes at your request I'd say you need to find another dealer.
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Re: '07 Mariner Hybrid...I spot it....so I got it. [andys120] by wilcox
Jul 25, 2009 (9:44 am)
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Replying to: andys120 (Jul 24, 2009 4:20 am)

Thanks for the suggestion. Good idea.
 
I hope to have a little leverage with a photo when I go to dealer...especially since the standard 3/36 warranty is over...even though the hybrid portion of the warranty is still in effect.
 
I think it's a "system/electrical" problem due to the complex nature of the hybrid system.
 
Every thing is working ok at this moment. I've played with the emergency brake to see what happens...engaging and releasing it had the effect of firming the brake pedal. Also, have verified that shifting into N will deactivate regen-braking system.
 
We'll see what happens....this may be a sign that I need to let the Mariner 4x4 hybrid go and get a premium Mustang GT convertable (that I've always wanted). The metalic blue, silver, and black 2010's are looking real good now! But hate to give up the Mariner's mileage, utility, and comfort....
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Re: '07 Mariner Hybrid...I spot it... by wilcox
Aug 01, 2009 (8:09 am)
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Replying to: andys120 (Jul 24, 2009 4:20 am)

Well Heil, it's been almost 10 days and the Mariner is working perfectly. No brake problems and average mileage is staying 30.6 MPG's.
 
Maybe there was a little dust that got removed...
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Ford Escape Hybrid 2008 Brake and ABS problem by hilltowns
Aug 13, 2009 (3:47 am)
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About 2 months ago I had the tires replaced on my 2008 FEH at 34k with Michelin tires better suited to the winter weather we have here than the factory issued tires. Ever since then, occasionally when braking at low speeds, the brakes seem to slip slightly before completely engaging: brake, slip, engage. I brought the car to the dealer twice and both times was told that they did not experience the problem when they took it out on the road. Well of course not, the problem is intermittent and at slow speeds. Then the other day as I was leaving to drive lots of hills where I live, the CHECK BRAKE SYSTEM and ABS warning lights went on. I went right back home, called another dealer and made an appointment. It was a long slow drive to the dealer, not knowing what the brakes would do. They found that the EXCITER RING on the Right Front Axle was cracked and said that this caused the ABS to read incorrectly, perceiving that the right front wheel was moving faster than the other three, thereby causing the ABS to kick in. $400 dollars later (the part cost $37 of that, the rest labor to take the axle out and replace it) I drove home thinking that the problem had finally been solved. I pulled into a parking spot and the same thing happened again, brake, slip, engage. I have a call into the service department now, waiting for a reply.
 
I have been reading scary accounts on line of FEH brakes failing. Can anyone tell me if they know what the root problem is, if Ford has made any comment, or are there programs to fix the problem. Thanks.
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Re: FEH brake problem: ad nauseum [jurdean] by shasha22366
Aug 21, 2009 (4:27 am)
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Replying to: jurdean (Jul 14, 2009 3:17 pm)

I have a 2005 FEH and I have had the exact same "brake light" issue". I just brought it in this morning to have it checked out because they told me that "it's safe to drive" but I need to have it checked out. Well I have a 2 year old son and the last thing that I want is for him to be in the car when the brakes become "unsafe". There is NO recall on this just a "letter from FORD" stating that there is a "corrosion probelem with the brakes in the Hybrids. This ought to be interesting.....I will post more later once I know more......
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Lemon Law by justindd
Aug 28, 2009 (5:33 am)
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I feel everyone's pain. I have an 08 Mariner 4WD that has the brake 'lock/slip' problem, where sometimes it does a brake, release, engage behavior, and othertimes worse. The other day the rear brakes locked up and I had to drag the back of the vehicle for about 100 yards with locked brakes. Then when I hit the brake pedal, the wheels unlocked and I was rolling again.
 
The car has been in for service for several days and I have them doing the final repair under the lemon law. They called me last night to tell me that they saw the behavior (which must mean the brake, release, engage behavior) and it is normal for the vehicle and FORD says nothing is wrong. Perhaps I didn't descripe engage properly here because engage on mine means engage to where the wheels in the back nearly lock, then release a little back to where they should be. I guess FORD considers it normal for cars to have brakes lock up, slip and slide on wet roads and ultimately cause accidents.
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FEH brake problem by hilltowns
Aug 30, 2009 (2:12 pm)
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Replying to: justindd (Aug 28, 2009 5:33 am)

much to my surprise the problem seems to have been fixed, at least for the moment.both front exciter rings were shot, one borken and one damaged. Since they were both replaced its been smooth sailing, and in fact, the feeling of instability at higher speeds is gone. The problem here is the lousy design and poor manufacting of this element. the exciter rings are attached to the axle, and exposed to the road. All the grit, all the snow, salt, you name it. They are made of an alloy that rusts, I kept one so can see it is not a great piece of manufacturing. The first one broke clear in half, the other lost one of its "spokes" that sense the speed of the car. DEALERS SHOULD KNOW ABOUT THIS. The first dealer had no clue after several visits, but the second one said that this happens a lot, which is why the keep the part in stock, ad they located in a small town in upstate New York. Bravo to them for figuring it out. Only wish the two visits had not cost $750!
 
Have the exciter rings checked on all 4 axles. Good luck.

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