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131 messages, Last post on Nov 10, 2009 at 11:36 AM
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The saga continues...   2 weeks ago ABS light/service brake system message and brakes go mostly to the floor. Dealer finds codes 1524/1526 and replaces master cylinder ($1700). One week after repair same issue. Different dealer finds different code (they won't show me) indicating some ground harness. Because it's a different repair they won't honor the repair warranty from the other dealer. I referenced a recall notice regarding ABS module and they indicate I don't fall under the recall because it doesn't mention "hybrid" only regular Escapes. I am filing complaints with the BBB and the NHTSA and will NEVER buy another Ford. FYI...in 1989 I bought an Escort. In the first year with 15K miles the timing belt broke. Ford would not honor that as a warranty repair stating "The warranty only covers internally lubricated parts that are NOT designed for failure and that the timing belt is DESIGNED to fail". That may be, but not in 1 year or < 20K miles.
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Replying to: scalabilitydab (Jul 11, 2009 10:57 am) Anyway - in the time I've had this Escape - I got 3 service brake messages, while driving - there would be a "beep" and then this message would show up on the instrument panel. I would find a place off roadway to stop - shut off the vehicle and the message would go away. Then continue my trip. It wouldn't happen again. It's now been over 6 months since happening. No problems. Obviously there was some "short. I called the dealer. They told me to make an appointment for all day to check out. I don't have all day to have the Escape "looked" at. Never been to the dealer. Probably will happen again after the warranty period.
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Following the tire pressure placard on door- noticed that my Escape rides "rough". I think it's the shocks. Is it possible that the shocks were set up with lower tire pressures at the factory. I do not expect a "car-like" ride w/ this vehicle but these SUV's - Escape to me included - should ride like a car. At least when I took the test drive. Well - maybe I should think "truck" suspension here. Is it a tradeoff here - to get better gas mileage - you have to keep the tires at 36 PSI. |
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Replying to: jurdean (Jul 14, 2009 3:17 pm) |
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Have been reading about brake issues on Mariner and FEH's AWD's. Thanks for your concerns and advice. Our Mariner has a tad over 47k miles. This week there have been two occasions at startup when "service brake..." message flashed and vehicle would not start. It also made some weird noises in operation at an intersection. I have the camera close by and the next time it gives me a warning...I'll take a picture of the message/code. If the dealer tells me some baloney about there's nothing wrong,,,using the ' doubting Thomas bit'...then, when he or she is finished blabbering, then I'll produce the photo evidence. I know they're going to try their best to have me chase my tail for 6 months...or, if brakes fail, end up being part of my funeral... Heirs can participate in lawsuit..and become millionaires on my behalf....Aaahaha I'm partial to Ford products and hope they don't try to screw me on this issue.
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Replying to: wilcox (Jul 23, 2009 4:39 pm) That seems like the long way around. If your dealer won't simply hook 'er up to the scanner to look for trouble codes at your request I'd say you need to find another dealer.
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Replying to: andys120 (Jul 24, 2009 4:20 am) I hope to have a little leverage with a photo when I go to dealer...especially since the standard 3/36 warranty is over...even though the hybrid portion of the warranty is still in effect. I think it's a "system/electrical" problem due to the complex nature of the hybrid system. Every thing is working ok at this moment. I've played with the emergency brake to see what happens...engaging and releasing it had the effect of firming the brake pedal. Also, have verified that shifting into N will deactivate regen-braking system. We'll see what happens....this may be a sign that I need to let the Mariner 4x4 hybrid go and get a premium Mustang GT convertable (that I've always wanted). The metalic blue, silver, and black 2010's are looking real good now! But hate to give up the Mariner's mileage, utility, and comfort.... |
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Replying to: andys120 (Jul 24, 2009 4:20 am)  30.6 MPG's. Maybe there was a little dust that got removed... |
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About 2 months ago I had the tires replaced on my 2008 FEH at 34k with Michelin tires better suited to the winter weather we have here than the factory issued tires. Ever since then, occasionally when braking at low speeds, the brakes seem to slip slightly before completely engaging: brake, slip, engage. I brought the car to the dealer twice and both times was told that they did not experience the problem when they took it out on the road. Well of course not, the problem is intermittent and at slow speeds. Then the other day as I was leaving to drive lots of hills where I live, the CHECK BRAKE SYSTEM and ABS warning lights went on. I went right back home, called another dealer and made an appointment. It was a long slow drive to the dealer, not knowing what the brakes would do. They found that the EXCITER RING on the Right Front Axle was cracked and said that this caused the ABS to read incorrectly, perceiving that the right front wheel was moving faster than the other three, thereby causing the ABS to kick in. $400 dollars later (the part cost $37 of that, the rest labor to take the axle out and replace it) I drove home thinking that the problem had finally been solved. I pulled into a parking spot and the same thing happened again, brake, slip, engage. I have a call into the service department now, waiting for a reply. I have been reading scary accounts on line of FEH brakes failing. Can anyone tell me if they know what the root problem is, if Ford has made any comment, or are there programs to fix the problem. Thanks. |
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Replying to: jurdean (Jul 14, 2009 3:17 pm) |
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