Article Comments: Perception Is Reality

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Article comments for Perception Is Reality - Witness the tale of two companies — Toyota and General Motors. Despite recalls and public relations woes, Toyota's image of bulletproof quality persists, and sales and market share rise. Despite concrete evidence to the contrary, GM's reputation for inferior quality remains, while sales and market share decline. (more)

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#120 of 149 Re: Not to shoot the unions again but... [rockylee] by brightness04 Sep 15, 2006 (6:27 pm)
Replying to: rockylee (Sep 15, 2006 6:42 am) Oh brother, please explain why these CEO's are making tens of millions in salary's like Ford's new CEO from Boeing ? Because Ford shareholders believe that he may be able to turn the company around. At least he is not blocking delivery trucks going into Ford plants until he gets his demand fulfilled. That's the difference between going to see a doctor knowing that you may have to pay his high fees to get your own health back, vs. being forced to hand over your wallet because the armed robber is threatening you with bodily harm. Replies to this message: rockylee (Sep 15, 2006 8:40 pm) brightness04 (Sep 15, 2006 10:01 pm) rockylee (Sep 15, 2006 10:47 pm)
#121 of 149 Re: Not to shoot the unions again but... [brightness04] by rockylee Sep 15, 2006 (8:40 pm)
Replying to: brightness04 (Sep 15, 2006 6:27 pm) Because Ford shareholders believe that he may be able to turn the company around. It's about time to kick the shareholders, out on the street since they've been wrong for the last decade. At least he is not blocking delivery trucks going into Ford plants until he gets his demand fulfilled Who's doing that ? That's the difference between going to see a doctor knowing that you may have to pay his high fees to get your own health back, vs. being forced to hand over your wallet because the armed robber is threatening you with bodily harm. I can't distinguish the two. Rocky Replies to this message: brightness04 (Sep 15, 2006 10:01 pm) rockylee (Sep 15, 2006 10:47 pm)
#122 of 149 Re: Not to shoot the unions again but... [rockylee] by brightness04 Sep 15, 2006 (10:01 pm)
Replying to: rockylee (Sep 15, 2006 8:40 pm) Who's doing that ? Whoever historically engaged in sit-down strikes and manned picket lines, or threantened to do either, to force Ford into signing those contracts. As to the doctor vs. the robber . . . the difference is that seeing the doctor is voluntary whereas being mugged is not. You honestly can't see the difference? Replies to this message: rockylee (Sep 15, 2006 10:47 pm)
#123 of 149 Re: Not to shoot the unions again but... [brightness04] by rockylee Sep 15, 2006 (10:47 pm)
Replying to: brightness04 (Sep 15, 2006 10:01 pm) Whoever historically engaged in sit-down strikes and manned picket lines, or threantened to do either, to force Ford into signing those contracts. I don't think the union forced (by use of a weapon) Ford, into signing those contracts, it was simply voluntary. As to the doctor vs. the robber . . . the difference is that seeing the doctor is voluntary whereas being mugged is not. You honestly can't see the difference? No I can't see the difference because today if you go see the doctor, your bank account is mugged and in some cases it's not voluntary. Rocky
#124 of 149 Re: Mazdas... [chikoo] by carguy58 Sep 16, 2006 (3:54 pm)
Replying to: chikoo (Sep 15, 2006 1:37 pm) "I thought you knew better (and more) about most cars. Anyway, like carguy posted earlier, the Mazda Protege (323) and Mazda6 are excellent cars with great quality, fit & finish." The Protege name hasn't been in the US since the 2003 model year. Now its called the Mazda 3 in the US and the Axela if I'm not mistaken in Japan. "The only reason I know of that Mazda got a bad name is due to the Mazda626 - onto which the parent FORD forced it's (ford) automatic transmission which was a big failure." I think another thing that hurts Mazda vs Honda and Nissan is Mazda's lack of good resale values. Mazda's resale value has always trailed Nissan and Honda. I don't think Mazda's are cross shopped with Toyota's alot. I had a 1998 626 myself and had a couple minor problems during 3 years of ownership.I would buy a Mazda again.
#125 of 149 Re: moving standards [oldharry] by carguy58 Sep 16, 2006 (4:13 pm)
Replying to: oldharry (Sep 13, 2006 8:32 pm) "Because the domestics sell so many to fleets that trade every year or two, while Imports sell mostly to individuals that finance them for five or six years, there are relatively few late model imports on the used market." I am an import guy but I don;t hate the Domestics or anything like that. Don't forhet the Domestics do give rebates to offset the higher resale values of the imports. Anyway does resale value really come into play after ownership of any car after 5 years? Most cars depreciate 50% over 5 years from what I hear. A vehicle like a BMW 3 Series, Lexus RX 300, Honda CR-V, and Toyota RAV 4 I think have resale values way over 50% though. I'm not giving any browny points to the Domesics or Japanese I'm just laying the pro's and con's of higher import's resale value and the Domestics lower resale value. Replies to this message: carlisimo (Sep 16, 2006 11:00 pm) tjw1308 (Sep 17, 2006 12:10 pm) Mr_Shiftright (Sep 17, 2006 2:19 pm) and 2 more... carguy58 (Sep 17, 2006 10:51 pm)
#126 of 149 Re: moving standards [carguy58] by carlisimo Sep 16, 2006 (11:00 pm)
Replying to: carguy58 (Sep 16, 2006 4:13 pm) I don't think resale matters to people who hold on to their cars for 5 years or more. But I don't think there are as many of those as you think. Rebates often do make it moot, at least for those who buy during fire sales. Replies to this message: tjw1308 (Sep 17, 2006 12:10 pm) Mr_Shiftright (Sep 17, 2006 2:19 pm) phinneas519 (Sep 24, 2006 3:45 pm) and 1 more... carguy58 (Sep 17, 2006 10:51 pm)
#127 of 149 Re: moving standards [carlisimo] by tjw1308 Sep 17, 2006 (12:10 pm)
Replying to: carlisimo (Sep 16, 2006 11:00 pm) It's funny, because 90% of the people I sell cars to SWEAR they're going to drive it until the wheels fall off... Until they see something they like more, or has more horsepower, or more safety, or whatever... Then they want THAT until the wheels fall off lol... Rebates or not, you can't make up the reality of how far upside down most DOMESTIC car owners are (especially in an SUV or truck). They can sometimes re-bury themselves with new rebates on other domestics that have them, but it doesn't help anything (they just dig an even deeper whole, but have a newer car). So tell my next customer trying to trade in his 04 TrailBlazer that with the rebates/discounts he got he did ok compared to if he had bought a 4Runner. He didn't. T Replies to this message: Mr_Shiftright (Sep 17, 2006 2:19 pm) phinneas519 (Sep 24, 2006 3:45 pm) chikoo (Feb 12, 2007 1:54 pm)
#128 of 149 Re: moving standards [tjw1308] by Mr_Shiftright HOST Sep 17, 2006 (2:19 pm)
Replying to: tjw1308 (Sep 17, 2006 12:10 pm) To me, resale values aren't "perception" but hard reality---that reality being the votes cast by the checkbooks of buyers. Nothing is more flattering to a car than a used car buyer who says "sure, I'll pay full retail book for that". Replies to this message: phinneas519 (Sep 24, 2006 3:45 pm) chikoo (Feb 12, 2007 1:54 pm)
#129 of 149 Re: moving standards [carlisimo] by carguy58 Sep 17, 2006 (10:51 pm)
Replying to: carlisimo (Sep 16, 2006 11:00 pm) I have had my car for 5 years myself. I don;t like buying new cars alot because you have to get used to a new car all the time. I think in a couple more years I will get tired of my car and want something else though.