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You are in the Ford Escape
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Honda CR-V, Ford Escape, Car Safety, Fuel Efficiency (MPG), SUV
#8500 of 8533 Re: CRV vs Escape vs RAV4 [steve_]
by vg33e power
Aug 27, 2009 (7:29 am)
I feel better now!
Now lets get back into the ring...LOL!
#8501 of 8533 Re: CRV vs Escape vs RAV4 [vg33e power]
by steve_ HOST
Aug 27, 2009 (9:02 am)
Every time I see your handle I think of Nissan and the V6 in my Quest. Are you a closet agitator?
Aug 27, 2009 (9:22 am)
I've always gotten at least 40k miles out of a set of brakes. If you get less... personally, I think you need ot review your braking habits. Mainly, not staying in the same place after comming to a complete stop. This is what warps rotors. The pads sitting on the hot rotor cause it to cool unenvenly. I think it's also a sign of the overcrowded roads in most metro areas. Thankfully, I've left that rat race.
As for manual transmissions. I enjoy driving them...for a while. But with my commute of 8-10 stops signs or lights over a 3 miles drive...it gets very tedious. It definitely has it's advantages, but with the newer automatics and CVT's it's claim over better mileage is no loger true in many cases. Also factor in lower resale value (demand is very low for manuals), limited dealer inventories, and on long trips almost every manula turns much higher RPM while makes for less relaxed crusing. In my last car, the difference was almost 1000 RPM. In the Honda Civic, it's at least 500 RPM and highway mileage is lower.
Some folks need to get over themselves, and realize at some point, shoving on a 3rd pedal is not nessesary, and is slowly becomming obsolete by better technology.
Yes race cars use manuals...although F1 cars are semi-automatic because they shift faster than a human can otherwise. But they use manuals because they are lighter, more compact, simplier, and transmit power more directly. Automatics like the VW DSG blur the line between manual and automatic.
At some point arguing for manual transmissions will be a little like complaining because the engine has FI, automatic chokes, vacuum assits brakes and an electric starter. ALL of these technologies were questioned when they first came out in their initial development cycles. While automatics aren't new, it's not easy ot better thte perfomance on a manual transmission... but it will eventually be accomplished.
On topic...as the the Escape. To each his own, but it lookes like a mini Explorer...which is not a compliment. It's boring and boxy. If you like that great, but I like a little bit of styling in my vehciles... and less chrome in the front. Ford has greatly improved theri vehciles... but not enouhg for me to buy one.
#8503 of 8533 Re: Brakes and MT's [motoguy128]
Aug 27, 2009 (9:34 am)
Mainly, not staying in the same place after comming to a complete stop. This is what warps rotors. The pads sitting on the hot rotor cause it to cool unenvenly.
That's only partially right. You have to overheat them to the point that they would cool unevenly first. Driving style still dictates that too but just sitting in one spot with the pads up against the rotors does not always warp a rotor.
We have hills, some very big and some not, everywhere around here so the brakes get heated up pretty darn fast which doesn't help. If the terrain where you live is more on the flat side then your brakes are destined to last longer. Just one more of the many factors that cause warped rotors.
#8504 of 8533 Re: CRV vs Escape vs RAV4 [steve_]
by vg33e power
Aug 27, 2009 (10:48 am)
I am sorry Steve call me ignorant or immature but I dont get your comment or your reference to Nissan and the V6 in your Quest, can you please clarify. I don't agitate conversations I just like to voice my opinon as everyone else does, after all isn't a forum meant for that? If we all shared the same view the entire world would live in peace and also be very boring.
#8505 of 8533 Re: CRV vs Escape vs RAV4 [vg33e power]
by steve_ HOST
Aug 27, 2009 (11:20 am)
Ah, sorry, didn't mean to sound anything other than a bit sarcastic. I just wondered if anyone besides a Nissan fan would ever notice that your user name is also the name of a great engine. Likely not any Ford or Honda fans in here (unless the Ford fan drove a Villager, the Quest twin).
Keep breathing, the dog days of summer will soon be gone.
#8506 of 8533 Re: CRV vs Escape vs RAV4 [steve_]
by vg33e power
Aug 27, 2009 (12:32 pm)
My apologies for understanding your comment negatively...and yes although a bit low in HP the VG33E engine was an outstanding engine with lots of torque, it was also built like a tank in my opinion. Loved my 2004 Nissan Frontier but it fell victim to the over $4.00 a gallon crisis.
#8507 of 8533 Re: Brakes and MT's [motoguy128]
Aug 27, 2009 (4:48 pm)
my wife has a black escape with the chrome trim and plastic chrome wheels.
i had my doubts about the plastic chromies, but they are easy to clean, as advertised.
#8508 of 8533 Cross shopping the CRV vs Escape now?
Sep 12, 2009 (11:48 am)
Is anyone actually cross shoping these vehicles now, or are we just talking Odyssey brakes, Nissan motors and lawn motors?
Anybody recently cross shop them?
PS-I had a Craftsman with a Briggs and Stratton, and a Bolens with a Briggs and Stratton. Neither compares to the Honda mower. Pay the extra $100 for a product that will always work properly and last twice as long. It's like buying a Weber grill, Levis jeans or a Polo shirt. They work better, feel better and last longer. And because they last much longer, they are cheaper in the long run.
Sep 14, 2009 (10:23 am)
Nope. the Escape looks like a Mini Ford Explorer...and thats's not a compliment. It' a little ugly box. Sorry. That's the extent of my cross shopping. Also, on the spec sheet, it doesn't have as much interior flexibility as the CR-V. The upgraded pwoertrains are at least a big step forward.
Ultimately I don't expect it to steer or handle like a Honda. But for those that just puch pedals and turn the wheel where they want to go, and don't care, it's probably a perfectly good alternative.