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You are in the Ford Escape
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Honda CR-V, Ford Escape, Car Safety, Fuel Efficiency (MPG), SUV
#8494 of 8533 Re: CRV vs Escape vs RAV4 [vg33e power]
Aug 26, 2009 (1:03 pm)
WOW! blueiedgod you really are a work of art.... and an ignorant self centered individual!
What about handicapped "men" that "need" an automatic because...guess what? God only gave us four limbs and two of them are nonfuctional in which the only two limbs left (both arms) need to be used to steer, brake and accelerate.
I think the only one around here with a complex is yourself in which you "need" a manual transmission vehicle to make up for the lack of your manhood. Now go put on a dress and get a real "manly" car with a manual transmission and stop driving your "unmanly CR-V" you jack!
"Silly blueiedgod CR-V's are for sissies"
Hey, did I say anything about handicaps? Maybe with a doctor's note they can get a specialty made automatic. I am pretty sure I have seen vehicles modfified for people with non-functional limbs.
There is no reason that a healthy man, or a woman for that matter could not be bothered to shift gears and pay attention to the road. Automatics are the evil that allows people to eat, drink, call, text, read a book while behind the whell. It allows them to do anything but driving. And when perfectly healthy men start crying out "Mommy, I don't want to shift in traffic!!!" Mommy goes and gives them the bottle, or automatic in this case, rather than making them tough it out.
As to my CR-V, it is manly enough for me. I have taken it off roading plenty of times, and have taken it to the track, and have used it to haul stuff from Home Depot/Lowes... you may even call it jack of all trades... jack....
Come to think of it, all of my vehicles are 4 cylinder. The 88 Prelude is a 2.0L I4, the 83 Magna is a 750 cc V4, and the 05 CR-V is a 2.4 L I4. Maybe I am the sissy you have been implying because I care about the environment and my carbon footprint, and I only consume what I need. But, hey, I am sure you are a manly man and could care less about anyone but your self.
#8495 of 8533 Re: CRV vs Escape vs RAV4 [vg33e power]
Aug 26, 2009 (2:06 pm)
WOW! 54K on the CR-V and 56K on the Ody and still going!!! I dont care if its a Honda or whatever other brand, that is awesome rates of longevity. I wish all vehicles lasted that long or longer
I've been rather surprised myself. I'm sure the van will need them one of these days. However, reading about all of the A/C and Tranny problems on Honda's as they age is starting to make me think I may need to dump them soon before they get expensive. One thing I will say about the Ford's I've had the past 10 years, they all had really comfortable seats that were great on the back during long drives and while they have had more repairs than my Honda or Toyota vehicles, they have mostly been relatively minor and not too expensive, although the problems seemed to climb geometrically after around 60K. The Honda dealers here gouge you! I think I like the Toyota's the best, but I'm not particularly fond of the RAV-4, I think it needs a redesign or at least a major updating.
#8496 of 8533 Brakes..
by kyfdx HOST
Aug 26, 2009 (5:32 pm)
95K before I replaced pads on my '02...
#8497 of 8533 Re: CRV vs Escape vs RAV4 [blueiedgod]
Aug 26, 2009 (6:20 pm)
of course a/c, power steering/brakes/windows/locks, etc are the stuff of tough man contests.
#8498 of 8533 Re: CRV vs Escape vs RAV4 [blueiedgod]
Aug 26, 2009 (10:06 pm)
Wow, I am amazed that the hosts have allowed this to continue as it has nothing to do with the discussion between these two vehicles not to mention the name calling that has occurred.
#8499 of 8533 Re: CRV vs Escape vs RAV4 [alamocity]
by steve_ HOST
Aug 26, 2009 (11:13 pm)
This has been a contentious discussion for literally years, even more so than most of the other comparison topics here. But the participants are usually pretty good with their give and take in spite of the heated arguments.
A deep breath would be in order.
#8500 of 8533 Re: CRV vs Escape vs RAV4 [steve_]
by vg33e power
Aug 27, 2009 (7:29 am)
I feel better now!
Now lets get back into the ring...LOL!
#8501 of 8533 Re: CRV vs Escape vs RAV4 [vg33e power]
by steve_ HOST
Aug 27, 2009 (9:02 am)
Every time I see your handle I think of Nissan and the V6 in my Quest. Are you a closet agitator?
Aug 27, 2009 (9:22 am)
I've always gotten at least 40k miles out of a set of brakes. If you get less... personally, I think you need ot review your braking habits. Mainly, not staying in the same place after comming to a complete stop. This is what warps rotors. The pads sitting on the hot rotor cause it to cool unenvenly. I think it's also a sign of the overcrowded roads in most metro areas. Thankfully, I've left that rat race.
As for manual transmissions. I enjoy driving them...for a while. But with my commute of 8-10 stops signs or lights over a 3 miles drive...it gets very tedious. It definitely has it's advantages, but with the newer automatics and CVT's it's claim over better mileage is no loger true in many cases. Also factor in lower resale value (demand is very low for manuals), limited dealer inventories, and on long trips almost every manula turns much higher RPM while makes for less relaxed crusing. In my last car, the difference was almost 1000 RPM. In the Honda Civic, it's at least 500 RPM and highway mileage is lower.
Some folks need to get over themselves, and realize at some point, shoving on a 3rd pedal is not nessesary, and is slowly becomming obsolete by better technology.
Yes race cars use manuals...although F1 cars are semi-automatic because they shift faster than a human can otherwise. But they use manuals because they are lighter, more compact, simplier, and transmit power more directly. Automatics like the VW DSG blur the line between manual and automatic.
At some point arguing for manual transmissions will be a little like complaining because the engine has FI, automatic chokes, vacuum assits brakes and an electric starter. ALL of these technologies were questioned when they first came out in their initial development cycles. While automatics aren't new, it's not easy ot better thte perfomance on a manual transmission... but it will eventually be accomplished.
On topic...as the the Escape. To each his own, but it lookes like a mini Explorer...which is not a compliment. It's boring and boxy. If you like that great, but I like a little bit of styling in my vehciles... and less chrome in the front. Ford has greatly improved theri vehciles... but not enouhg for me to buy one.
#8503 of 8533 Re: Brakes and MT's [motoguy128]
Aug 27, 2009 (9:34 am)
Mainly, not staying in the same place after comming to a complete stop. This is what warps rotors. The pads sitting on the hot rotor cause it to cool unenvenly.
That's only partially right. You have to overheat them to the point that they would cool unevenly first. Driving style still dictates that too but just sitting in one spot with the pads up against the rotors does not always warp a rotor.
We have hills, some very big and some not, everywhere around here so the brakes get heated up pretty darn fast which doesn't help. If the terrain where you live is more on the flat side then your brakes are destined to last longer. Just one more of the many factors that cause warped rotors.