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#267 of 548 2007 diesel is the 2.8 crd- at least in europe
Sep 24, 2006 (3:05 pm)
tallduc, "Jeep Wrangler" #22128, 24 Sep 2006 3:01 pm
More Powerful and Fuel-efficient Engines
Available for the first time in a civilian model is a diesel engine for Jeep Wrangler, and this engine is also offered for the Wrangler Unlimited. Built by VM Motori, this all-new 2.8-litre common-rail turbo diesel engine is a 2766cc (169 cu. in.) four-cylinder, in-line engine, with belt-driven double overhead camshafts and four valves per cylinder.
The iron cylinder block is an open block design with a ladder frame bed plate and integral liners. The aluminium cylinder head features a side-entry swirl intake port and a directed intake port. A Bosch EDC 16 common-rail direct-injection fuel system is incorporated along with an electronically controlled EGR valve and variable geometry turbocharger.
The 2.8-litre diesel engine is available with a six-speed manual transmission or five-speed automatic transmission. Maximum power is estimated at 130 kW (177 hp DIN), and peak torque is estimated at 410 Nm (302 lb.-ft.) between 1800-2400 rpm
#268 of 548 Re: To Rubicon or not Rubicon, that is the question [stevensoriano]
Sep 25, 2006 (5:52 am)
Honestly, find another dealer. He's trying to look like your 'bud' and 'save you money' but I suspect he has goodies he wants to sell you for the Sahara. Any dealer not wanting to take your money and steer you away from what you want, you have to wonder what they are thinking.
The Rubicon is not any less streetable than the Sahara. Yeah, the transfer case has a lower ratio, but onroad, that is irrelevant, unless in 4wd in snow.
The Rubicon shocks may be a bit beefier. If the tires on the Rubicon are going to cup, then they'd do it on the Sahara too as their suspension is apparantly the SAME. The new Rubicons are going to come with BFG tires if I've read the information about them correctly. NOT a bad tire and better than pretty much anything that has come stock on a Wrangler to date.
As for gearing 2.77 would scare me - that is VERY high! It may be great for highway cruising and mileage, but overall, it isn't going to save you THAT much in gas. I'd rather have the lower 4.10 gearing for better acceleration and torque to the wheels, which you'd want for towing anyway.
I have 4.88 gearing in my 4 cyl, and while the RPM's are higher, it has better highway manners than if I had left it at the 4.10's when I put on my larger tires. 4.10 is VERY nice for on the highway. I know several Rubicon owners and they LOVE it on the highway. I'm sure the JK will be even quieter (albeit a bit slower than its 2 door version due to weight). That added weight of the 4 door helps tell me 4.10 is the way to go.
If you maintain your vehicle properly, the Rubicon will last as long (longer) than a regular Jeep IMO. Stronger parts, armor, etc all help it last longer. Just remember if you wheel it, TREAD LIGHTLY! and make sure to clean off the undercarriage and above the armor when done to help prevent rust or potential debris buildup.
#269 of 548 Re: Under Invoice Question [stevebo777]
Sep 25, 2006 (8:06 am)
We bought an '06 Wrangler Rubicon a year ago. We love it but itís just a bit small for us and our two setters to ride in back. Reading about the new 4-door, we're already sold. My wife drives the car most of the time, and almost always on road --
I understand this may be sacrilegious to some but which of the four door versions (Sahara, X, Rubicon) would offer the most comfort and fuel economy?
Thanks so much.
#270 of 548 Re: Under Invoice Question [mikolar]
Sep 25, 2006 (9:46 am)
Probably the 4x2 versions of the Sahara or X.
#271 of 548 Re: To Rubicon or not Rubicon, that is the question [erickpl]
Sep 25, 2006 (10:24 pm)
Thank you for the advice. This dealer only had Sahara's on the lot, so I think that contributed to him telling me that I didn't need the extra gusto of the Rubicon. What a prick.
Now, the next question is how long until the 2007's have the 7/70 that the 06's have or the 5/100,000 that the GM's have?
It looks like a good product....I wish Chrysler had the same confidence in their work that I do.
#272 of 548 Re: To Rubicon or not Rubicon, that is the question [stevensoriano]
Sep 26, 2006 (7:24 am)
Keep in mind, the new JK is a totally retooled rig from the solid TJ's. The first year of a new model CAN be problematic, so keep that in mind. My 97 TJ (first year of production) has been relatively problem free since I acquired it, with the only exceptions being items that I already knew about prior to buying (exhaust manifold leak, small oil leaks, etc).
Good luck with whatever purchase you choose (I'd personally go for the Rubicon if given a choice).
#273 of 548 2007 Rubicon Unlimited
Sep 26, 2006 (11:43 am)
My wife and I test drove an 07' Unlimited "X" this weekend, then an 06' Unlimited. The 07' feels so much more roomy with the extra 5" of shoulder room. I'm afraid that the 3.8L engine feels shy of adequate power, but I'm sure in time Paxton or Whipple will produce something to help in that department. I like the new styling, it grew on me quickly, but the interior trim is way too cheezy with all the over-abundant plastic.
Despite the flaws, we ordered an 07' Rubicon Unlimited yesterday with the dual tops, power convenience group, 6-speed, mats, trailering package, front side air bags, dark tinted windows, but we did NOT order the smokers package, nor an upgrade to the radio. I plan to install a Pioneer Axim-Z1 when I get it to access XM radio instead of Sirius, as well as use/charge my iPod, and navigate. It also has cool Vehicle performance monitoring such as off-camber angle, Gs of acceleration, voltmeter and a host of other things, I strongly recommend checking it out. It looks as though it should fit into the dash space cleanly.
I found a company out in Montana that installs 5.7L Hemi engines in Wranglers as a turn-key operation. Anyone look into this? http://www.aev-conversions.com/
Bryson CIty, NC
#274 of 548 Re: 2007 Rubicon Unlimited [spudracer]
Sep 26, 2006 (12:57 pm)
Like a Wrangler needs a G meter (acclerometer) heheh
Fun stuff anyways!
AEV has been producting Brutes and doing 5.7 Hemi conversions for a while. I'd LOVE one of their Brutes, but not willing to pay that price (Price of a new Rubicon + all the upgrades) = $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
#275 of 548 Test Ride & Impressions
Sep 26, 2006 (8:09 pm)
I currently own a 02 Sport TJ. I loved the size of the 07 and you could feel there was more power.
It rode like a Jeep but was more comfortable. It did not feel like a KJ but it did feel lighter in some respects.
Note - the front grill is very cheap plastic but they have improved the interior from the TJ in a big way. Small/thin door rockers (very car like) - I wonder how water proof that is going to be?
The metal is much thinner and very Samurai/car like.
I liked the rubber like fenders and moving the turning signals back to the grille. I wonder if they fade ... I hope not!
Fender hugging tail lights were really cool looking and still box shaped.
Tiny but deep engine compartment - only a short block V8 will fit in there if it is ever offered.
I was really surprised 2WD was an option and I do not see that many selling unless they really start jacking the prices up for the 4WD option.
Loved the 4 door model I drove but I am in sort of a wait and see mode at this point.
You see I am going to wait 2 or 3 years from now. I will read relibility stats and wait for more options. I was burned when the Unlimited came out a year or so after I bought my Sport.
I do not know if this is going to be the sucessor to the TJ in spirit or not - the jury is still out. I will probably keep my TJ and not trade it in any case. I'd never get what I invested in it back.
I am waiting on the V8 or a Hemi Jeep to solve the power problems that Wrangler owners have been begging fixed since the YJ.
If I am going to get bad MPG I might as well do it in an EIGHT!
#276 of 548 2007 Test drive
Oct 05, 2006 (10:23 am)
I still haven't seen an 07' Rubicon yet, though we have test driven an auto and a 6-speed manual 4-door in the past few weeks. I STRONGLY recommend the 6-speed over the auto, it FEELS like it has a little more power, and being able to hold it in a gear and get the RPMs up really makes it easier to drive, and the gutless engine feels less so.
No Rubicons even seen on eBay yet, ours is now in production, and should be finished within the next 7-10 days. I was told it takes about 2 weeks to build one.
I've already decided to lift it 3 inches, and replace the 32" tires with 35" x 17 BF Goodrich Mud TA tires on 17" Mickey Thompson Classic Beadlock rims, and to replace both the gear sets with 4.88:1 gears. If I replace the 4.10s with 4.56s, that would keep the ratio about stock, but the 4.88 gears should also help with power, and acceleration, though it MAY drop the highway MPG 1-2.
Bryson City, NC