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That is correct by mrpushrod
Oct 10, 2008 (8:25 pm)
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We all need a huge pay cut. We may be at the beginning of the correction. And BTW, there is really nothing great about a FWD, front heavy, unreliable V6 Camry regardless where it is made. It would be the one of the last family sedans on my list. I drove the CTS and STS, liked them both. The G8 is ok too, but I rather the interior ergonomics of the Caddies. The G8 has better interior room which was paramount to me. Like the balanced ride and the pushrod V8 which is American. Best engine for the money, simpler lower center of gravity, weighs less, more torque, smaller exterior, more reliable.
 
GMs Holden transplant G8 is a much better car than the Camry. And just as when Toyota sells a Camry here, GM gets a check when they sell a vehicle in Australia. It is the same deal, yet everyone knocks GM for doing the same thing Toyota is doing.
 
And GM has a good reason for doing it. The legacy UAW payoffs costs GM a $2500 premium for every vehicle sold. The premium goes to a lazy American for striking rather than working. We compete against a lot of countries where the salaries are pittance compared to ours.
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Re: Reputation [mrpushrod] by circlew
Oct 11, 2008 (5:21 am)
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Replying to: mrpushrod (Oct 10, 2008 7:28 pm)

I am surprised someone of your experience doesn't realize the damage second class products have done to the former big 3. It's not a plot by uninformed consumers that have migrated to the imports. You bought a G8 which is an import.
 
The fact is that the demise of the big 3 was inevitable. Arrogance breeds weakness in the end. Yes it will hurt our economy just like drunken consumers lived on credit to buy what they could not afford.
 
CR or JD Power can't help the poor products that came out of Detroit. GM and Chrysler are talking merger. It doesn't have to go to bankruptcy and I think this is a great time to do something drastic.
 
Regards,
OW
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Re: That is correct [mrpushrod] by circlew
Oct 11, 2008 (5:23 am)
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Replying to: mrpushrod (Oct 10, 2008 8:25 pm)

Correct. The business model did them in. Inferior products and profits do not work in business.
 
That's why the G8, 2008 CTS and 2008 Malibu stand out like beacons. Not the usual junk you see in the show rooms.
 
Regards,
OW
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Re: That is correct [circlew] by paisan
Oct 11, 2008 (8:40 pm)
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Replying to: circlew (Oct 11, 2008 5:23 am)

OW,
 
I agree with yah. Same arguement I got into at an autoshow with a Ford rep. They could not give me a single reason to buy their FWD mid/small sedan over a foreign car other than "Support America". Actually when that arguement didn't work, she went so far as to say, well buy a Ford because we donated money to 9/11 relief efforts. That's when I lost it and went off on this lady because she was trying to use 9/11 donations by Ford to sell me a car. In retrospect, I should have taken her name and gotten her fired for such comments!
 
I heard about the GM-Chrysler merger. That could get very interesting.
 
-mike
Motorsports and Modifications Host
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Re: Reputation [paisan] by holdenguy
Oct 12, 2008 (5:51 am)
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Replying to: paisan (Oct 10, 2008 7:42 pm)

"Don't blame our economic problems on foreign countries, look within for the problems".
 
How bloody true is that!
I give it to you in one word,Bush.
I seriously doubt anything we do here (Australia) would affect you guys.
But what Bush did with your Banking System over there has screwed things here big time as well.
Still, our Government has always been heavily regulating the banks here and we will ride out this disaster far better than you guys.
The BIG BIG BIG bonus for you guys is the fact that the $AU has been sold heavily for no damn reason at all other than Americans need the cash.
Expect,(DEMAND) that you get your G8`s cheaper from the Dealers as our $ dropped over 25 cents against yours.
Therefore, it is cheaper for your Dealers to buy them now.
They most likely have a bigger margin now, so haggle the hell out of them.
On a differant note, Have any of the Utes arrived yet?
I heard over here that it was put to a vote to name them and you came up with G8 ST (Sports Truck)?
They are hugely popular here, we call them a sports car with a bloody big boot (trunk), lol!
Also, our SS (G8) our now running with the 6.2 litre motor and the HSV`s are using the LS3.
To hell with the price of fuel, we pay way more than you anyway.
Life is too short, enjoy them while you can.
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Re: G8 Safety Ratings? [yak54] by holdenguy
Oct 12, 2008 (6:01 am)
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Replying to: yak54 (Sep 30, 2008 12:14 pm)

Has a rating of 4 stars mate.
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Re: Reputation [holdenguy] by bvdj84
Oct 12, 2008 (6:17 am)
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Replying to: holdenguy (Oct 12, 2008 5:51 am)

Good Point, Life is short enjoy things while you can! So true! We all get caught up in the little things that we lose sight on just living life, and living fun!
 
Heck, we only live once, if I can swing putting fuel in a big V8 engine, then do it!
You only live once, now this is fighting my practical side...lol. But its true.
 
But, you know what my issue is.... it is making choices.. like getting a car.
I could spend forever, on deciding which car I want, acting like it is the last car I will ever drive. lol, I find myself doing this method with other things in my life. It drives me crazy sometimes. Some tell me, "Just make a choice, and get on with it!". lol I should. I think we all need to have more fun! Then that way wouldn't treat each other so mean. We are all so tense! A walking bomb! Is it really worth your health and happiness?
 
Though I am not a big American car fan, I would drive a G8! I would probably get a white one! V8!
If you want a G8, a big V8! Then get one! Its a car, now check with your practical side before you do this...lol
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VE Holden Ute. by holdenguy
Oct 12, 2008 (6:52 am)
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http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhOVAtA7l2Y&feature=related
 
Love this advert showing a lot of the old Holden Utes from the past.
A mate of mine has one in the same weird green color,
he also has one of those new Bimmer 335 Coupes with the twin turbos.
He prefer the Ute for the fun factor
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Re: Reputation [bvdj84] by holdenguy
Oct 12, 2008 (7:01 am)
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Replying to: bvdj84 (Oct 12, 2008 6:17 am)

Mate,
JUST DO IT.
And make sure it`s the V8, then mod the damn thing!
I`m wacking a supercharger on my VZ LS1 Commodore.
Should get me around 620 hp.
That will scare the bejeezes out of any damn ricer that thinks he can take me at the traffic light drags.
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Re: Reputation [holdenguy] by nojets
Oct 12, 2008 (2:09 pm)
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Replying to: holdenguy (Oct 12, 2008 5:51 am)

This isn't a political forum mate, so we should stay off politics, but for the record, what happened to the banking system here in the US was caused by Congress, not the Bush Administration. If anything, the Republicans warned that this was coming for the past few years and tried to fix it. But they met a wall of opposition from the Democrats who wanted the poor to get loans they couldn't afford.
 
But we shouldn't be talking politics here!

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