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Replying to: mrpushrod (Oct 10, 2008 7:28 pm) Don't blame our economic problems on foreign countries, look within for the problems. Also just an FYI, FMC and GM can and probably are stocks owned by foreign companies, so are we really supporing "our own country" by buying american branded cars? Everyone here helped to contribute to the exporting of jobs, I'm sure that 90% of what you are wearing is made somewhere overseas. No one was crying a river when my Italian-American ancestors were laid off from the clothing industy in favor of cheap foreign goods. Nope they had to roll with it and adapt to the new landscape in terms of jobs. Same goes for auto workers etc. If the jobs aren't here for what you can do, you either move to where the jobs are or you adapt to what the local economy supports.... [ / rant off ] -mike Motorsports and Modifications Host
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You don't understand. We no longer have a technical edge in this global economy. Workers in other countries make peanuts compared to our workers. There is not going to be anyplace we can go like your ancestors. We are really getting off of the subject. With the creation of the internet the technology is available to all. Engineers in India were making 25k while we were making 125k. I bet you think it would benefit Americans more if the first viable electric car is invented elsewhere. Keep it up, our kids will pay.
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Replying to: mrpushrod (Oct 10, 2008 7:57 pm) To your thoughts on the 25k Engineer v. 125k Engineer, why should I as the consumer pay for the 125k Engineer to design my car, IF and this is a big IF the 25k Engineer can do the same thing for less money? That's the whole basis of the Capitalism System that competition will yield a better cheaper product! -mike Motorsports and Modifications Host |
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We all need a huge pay cut. We may be at the beginning of the correction. And BTW, there is really nothing great about a FWD, front heavy, unreliable V6 Camry regardless where it is made. It would be the one of the last family sedans on my list. I drove the CTS and STS, liked them both. The G8 is ok too, but I rather the interior ergonomics of the Caddies. The G8 has better interior room which was paramount to me. Like the balanced ride and the pushrod V8 which is American. Best engine for the money, simpler lower center of gravity, weighs less, more torque, smaller exterior, more reliable. GMs Holden transplant G8 is a much better car than the Camry. And just as when Toyota sells a Camry here, GM gets a check when they sell a vehicle in Australia. It is the same deal, yet everyone knocks GM for doing the same thing Toyota is doing. And GM has a good reason for doing it. The legacy UAW payoffs costs GM a $2500 premium for every vehicle sold. The premium goes to a lazy American for striking rather than working. We compete against a lot of countries where the salaries are pittance compared to ours.
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Replying to: mrpushrod (Oct 10, 2008 7:28 pm) The fact is that the demise of the big 3 was inevitable. Arrogance breeds weakness in the end. Yes it will hurt our economy just like drunken consumers lived on credit to buy what they could not afford. CR or JD Power can't help the poor products that came out of Detroit. GM and Chrysler are talking merger. It doesn't have to go to bankruptcy and I think this is a great time to do something drastic. Regards, OW |
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Replying to: mrpushrod (Oct 10, 2008 8:25 pm) That's why the G8, 2008 CTS and 2008 Malibu stand out like beacons. Not the usual junk you see in the show rooms. Regards, OW
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Replying to: circlew (Oct 11, 2008 5:23 am) I agree with yah. Same arguement I got into at an autoshow with a Ford rep. They could not give me a single reason to buy their FWD mid/small sedan over a foreign car other than "Support America". Actually when that arguement didn't work, she went so far as to say, well buy a Ford because we donated money to 9/11 relief efforts. That's when I lost it and went off on this lady because she was trying to use 9/11 donations by Ford to sell me a car. In retrospect, I should have taken her name and gotten her fired for such comments! I heard about the GM-Chrysler merger. That could get very interesting. -mike Motorsports and Modifications Host |
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Replying to: paisan (Oct 10, 2008 7:42 pm) How bloody true is that! I give it to you in one word,Bush. I seriously doubt anything we do here (Australia) would affect you guys. But what Bush did with your Banking System over there has screwed things here big time as well. Still, our Government has always been heavily regulating the banks here and we will ride out this disaster far better than you guys. The BIG BIG BIG bonus for you guys is the fact that the $AU has been sold heavily for no damn reason at all other than Americans need the cash. Expect,(DEMAND) that you get your G8`s cheaper from the Dealers as our $ dropped over 25 cents against yours. Therefore, it is cheaper for your Dealers to buy them now. They most likely have a bigger margin now, so haggle the hell out of them. On a differant note, Have any of the Utes arrived yet? I heard over here that it was put to a vote to name them and you came up with G8 ST (Sports Truck)? They are hugely popular here, we call them a sports car with a bloody big boot (trunk), lol! Also, our SS (G8) our now running with the 6.2 litre motor and the HSV`s are using the LS3. To hell with the price of fuel, we pay way more than you anyway. Life is too short, enjoy them while you can. |
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Replying to: yak54 (Sep 30, 2008 12:14 pm) |
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Replying to: holdenguy (Oct 12, 2008 5:51 am) Heck, we only live once, if I can swing putting fuel in a big V8 engine, then do it! You only live once, now this is fighting my practical side...lol. But its true. But, you know what my issue is.... it is making choices.. like getting a car. I could spend forever, on deciding which car I want, acting like it is the last car I will ever drive. lol, I find myself doing this method with other things in my life. It drives me crazy sometimes. Some tell me, "Just make a choice, and get on with it!". lol I should. I think we all need to have more fun! Then that way wouldn't treat each other so mean. We are all so tense! A walking bomb! Is it really worth your health and happiness? Though I am not a big American car fan, I would drive a G8! I would probably get a white one! V8! If you want a G8, a big V8! Then get one! Its a car, now check with your practical side before you do this...lol
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