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What is this discussion about? Pontiac Grand Prix, Pontiac G8, Future Vehicle, Sedan


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Re: Agree [mrpushrod] by paisan
Sep 23, 2008 (3:27 pm)
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Replying to: mrpushrod (Sep 23, 2008 10:11 am)

And all this has to do with the G8 how? Seriously if this doesn't get back on topic, I'll take actions to close this thread guys.
 
-mike
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Re: Agree [paisan] by KarenS HOST
Sep 24, 2008 (7:06 am)
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Replying to: paisan (Sep 23, 2008 3:27 pm)

Gee, I thought I was the host here?! Yep, my name is at the top of the page as Host. And no, I won't be closing it down, but I am going to insist that derogatory comments about the intelligence of other members in this discussion cease immediately.
 
Thanks for your future cooperation!
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G8 Safety Ratings? by yak54
Sep 30, 2008 (12:14 pm)
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Anyone know why there seems to be no star ratings from crash test for the G8?
 
Thanks
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Re: Reputation? [circlew] by dhamp
Oct 06, 2008 (7:10 am)
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Replying to: circlew (Sep 16, 2008 9:57 am)

Unfortunately, in our fickle society, the name of a car means a whole lot. I never knew how true this was until the whole Ford Five Hundred-Taurus fiasco. What a load! You won't by a 500, but you'll by the exact same car with a Taurus name plate and a different grille?? Senseless. Another example is how I constantly hear people saying that they wouldn't spend over 30-grand for a HYUNDAI, because they can't get beyond the crap that Hyundai put out in the beginning. Look at the car and the service people! Not the nameplates!
 
Unfortunately, the GP, like many other cherished namesakes in the American car industry, has lost it's luster over the years. The majority of people under 35 or so hear Gran Prix and think of those years of unrefined powertrains and gaudy plastic that Pontiac slapped on every doggone thing. They don't think of the big-block, six-pack variations that were awesome! They needed to come out with new names to break from the history that's etched in so many minds. Plus, I think they sound sportier than Bonneville or Gran Prix. IMO, GTO, Z28, 350Z, 911.......they just sound better.
 
Now, I grew up in a GM household, mainly Olds, Buick, and Chevys. My dad still has the '70 Chevelle SS 396 that he bought in '72 OR '73. My 1st two cars were a '64 Impala (327 Turbo-fire) and a '78 Cutlass (305-V8 4-barrel). After my beautiful Cutlass was totalled (rear-ended on the way to school one morning), I got a Honda Accord hatchback. I was elated--probably because most of the upper class kids drove Jap cars and I liked the manual tranny for dumping the clutch. I put a 180k on it before selling it to a former neighbor who continued driving it for many years. I think bought a Mazda 626 which I sold with 247k miles on it. Next I bought a '96 Maxima which I just sold a year ago with just under 250k miles on it and, other than a starter, radiator, and temp sensor, I never did more than scheduled maintenance on it. All of them were in good running condition when I sold them. All this to say that I've been on of those, "I like how some of the US cars look, but I'll always by Japanese" people....until recently.
 
The US has always had a car here or there that I would "take a chance and buy", like the Marauder, '94-'96 Impala SS, and GTO. I just tend to put a lot of miles on a car and I've been spoiled by my Japanese models, so I have to feel that I can get 200k on a car w/out problems before I buy it. I broke down (bad choice of words)and bought a Ford Exploder.....oops! I mean Explorer...... because we were starting a family and wanted the room. MISTAKE! Including the transmission that crapped out around 80k, I spent waaaaay more in repairs in the 4 years we had it than I spent in 9 years of owning my Maxima, so we dumped it and got an Infiniti for my wife to drive. Couldn't be happier with that.
 
I personally am a Nissan guy, and still drive a Maxima. HOWEVER, I love the G8. I was planning on getting an Infiniti M after my current Maxima, but if the first few years prove them to be reliable and sturdy, I'm about 80% sure that will be my next car. It invokes the same classic, big, muscle car feeling that are reminiscent of "the good ol' days" like the '95 Impala SS, but does so in a MUCH better package. The interior and ride quality are light years ahead of past efforts, and are world-class. WAY TO GO PONTIAC!!! Now, if we could just get a comparable RWD Chevy.......
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Re: Reputation [paisan] by cracovian
Oct 10, 2008 (9:25 am)
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Replying to: paisan (Sep 22, 2008 5:18 pm)

It's called "Camry" - not that heard to spell. I don't own it but we almost bought the hybrid instead of the van; it was just too small but Lexus-like refined and exciting (though no V8, sub-200 HP American-style V6 or optional ABS here). Not sure what you mean by "boring" but isn't Fusion or Malibu in the same appliance category? People still buy the Toyota because, say whatever you want, long term reliability is much higher and the resale value rocks. Have you seen interiors on the Accord and Altima? They're some of the best in business and compare that to Fisher Price shiny plastics (excluding the G8 obviously) on Pontiacs and Chevys. And we're giving them $25 billion to make more of this crap, cut more corners and move even more of their production to China. It makes me sick.
 
BTW, I'm really hoping for some good GM card promotions in December (like the 5K for my GTO in 2004) As much as I love our good ole' Trooper, a nice G8 instead (and for cheap) will be a good way to prop up the Australian economy and put Exxon back on track
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Re: Reputation [cracovian] by tayl0rd
Oct 10, 2008 (9:48 am)
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Replying to: cracovian (Oct 10, 2008 9:25 am)

...and compare that to Fisher Price shiny plastics (excluding the G8 obviously)...
 
I thought that, too, until I sat in one. I was so disappointed. The design is nice, but the materials... And when I opened the glove box, my face melted!
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Re: Reputation [tayl0rd] by cracovian
Oct 10, 2008 (9:58 am)
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Replying to: tayl0rd (Oct 10, 2008 9:48 am)

Do you mean you were disappointed with the interior of the G8? I know it's a downgrade from the GTO but it's still way above the "domestic" average and on par with a nice Accord.
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Crazy by mrpushrod
Oct 10, 2008 (10:47 am)
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Funny, but I prefer the interior of my F150 & Town Car over my G8 (My wifes Town Car was traded for the G8). My wife did too. I never feel that comfortable in Japanese cars. I almost always prefer vehicles made in America or even less reliable vehicles from Europe Furthermore, maybe I spelled Camry wrong, but the technical aspects I pointed out were accurate. And yes, the fusion I drove side by side to the latest generation Camry was much more tossable. I assume you would not notice this since you own a Camry and prefer a soft mushy ride that serves up plenty torque steer. I have found many faults with the G8 too. Not as many as I found with the Camry though. I will drive the G8. I would never drive a Camry because it is a mush bucket. I remember driving the Camry prior to this generation with the foolish tailpipe that practically dragged on the ground with any passengers in the back seat. With this setup the Camry had less ground clearance than my vette. Even my elderly in-laws noticed this when their friends Camry dragged relentlessly when exiting their driveway with passengers in the back seat. Something my Towncar could do with ease even with six passengers (Air adjustable suspension, non brain dead tail pipe placement). I also thought the seats in this gen Camry were god awful and a lot of car mags back this claim up. And again, according to honest owner surveys from CR, the V6 Camry is unreliable. I would imagine this would be something your up on if you are really trying to decipher who is building more reliable vehicles and not trying to bash American car manufactures using data collected in a vacuum??? I heard the poor build quality, crunches in the front suspension myself when I took a Camry for a test drive. Hope the spelling meets your criteria. Maybe you should take a look at Consumer Reports or JD powers reliability surveys prior to giving advice to others. So I own a C5 vette, 09 G8 and latest gen F150. I have owned well over 30 new vehicles including classics such as the 94 Impalla SS, mustangs, and too many others to mention. I am very fussy when it comes to ergonomics, ride and handling. 60-40 weight distribution always rears its ugly head when initial braking in a corner, during acceleration or just in general driving. The G8 is balanced and has an enormous amount of torque. So much so that if you were to put that gusty American V8 in a Camry it would lay rubber for ever during hard acceleration. All available weight would shift to the rear wheels. This was typed up fast so please correct the technical content, not the grammar.
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Re: Reputation [cracovian] by tayl0rd
Oct 10, 2008 (10:50 am)
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Replying to: cracovian (Oct 10, 2008 9:58 am)

I was disappointed with the (dashboard) materials. The design is not bad.
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And I would be dissapointed if by mrpushrod
Oct 10, 2008 (11:05 am)
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the g8 had less power, was unreliable, took longer to brake, served up torque steer, squealed when entering and exiting off ramps and had rattles coming from the front suspension. I would rather see a poorly lined glove box.

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