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Replying to: tayl0rd (Sep 16, 2008 10:48 am)  Regards, OW |
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Replying to: circlew (Sep 16, 2008 9:57 am) What is a G8?? Should have called it Grand Prix. It's almost as if they knew GP's were junk and didn't want to tarnish a good example of what Pontiac should have been making HERE IN THE US all along. Regards, OW Again, I repeat, what does it matter where or by who or by what name a car is? So long as it delivers "value" (whatever that value may be to an individual)? I guess the name itself could be the "value" but those folks who buy on name alone, are pretty shallow people to begin with. Guess that's why, although I like MB and BMW, I never really was able to get along with the other owners because a lot of them had bought for the name alone. -mike |
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It matters what the name plate is because even though Buick Cadillac jaguar Lincoln Mercury Toyota & Honda are tied in overall quality, some people in this thread make comments like "All cars designed and built in the U.S.A. by Ford, GM and Chrysler are of secondary quality. The foreign manufacturers, including GM-owned Holden show their quality in looks, driving feel and lasting quality far better." Yet the same person asks why GM doesn't make the G8 in America. The obvious answer: then prejudice people that don't believe the V6 Merc. Milan is much more reliable than a V6 Camry won't buy it. This is because they have owned a handful of old American cars and believe their test results on dependability is far superior and scientific than the thousands of surveys CR & JD powers conducted. What do you do with the phony expert. BTW, I both my vette & 94 Impalla SS are/were fun America vehicles
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Replying to: mrpushrod (Sep 16, 2008 6:21 pm) I posted this quote by Jack Welch on other forums which is appropriate at a time when the the Detroit 3 and the Financial Industry are experiencing hard times: "Change before you have to." The US manufactures are ridiculous! Watch the customers not me. When a product is good I buy it. When there is better, I follow. The G8 is good. I am not sure how much it will help GM since it is in limited supply so far. Regards, OW |
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The surveys were filled out by CUSTOMERS. They have spoken. CUSTOMERS that have perception issues would not buy an American nameplate even if in reality it was twice as reliable. Hondas & Toyota are all boring FWD vehicles with a false reputation of superior reliability. They are actually tied as I pointed out and proved to you several times now. Even a more reliable Fusion is more thrilling on a winding road than a Camry
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Replying to: mrpushrod (Sep 17, 2008 4:14 am) This survey shows CUSTOMER choice for 2008 MY vehicles. 18 out of 26 segment winners are: IMPORTS! That is why G8 is a great choice! 2008 Motorist Choice Awards I did not participate! Regards, OW |
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Replying to: mrpushrod (Sep 17, 2008 4:14 am) Though I was impressed with the G8! I would drive a white one, it was quite fun to drive! I loved the size, I felt right at home. |
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I test drove the Camry side by side with the Fusion. The Camry is a boring old womans car. It is ok if you drive like my grandmother. I would rather have a RWD CTS, Chrysler, G8, etc. The Camry might be fine for you if you don't like curves and love torque steer. Another vehicle I tested and liked was the Cad STS.I can see you don't mind having 60% of the vehicle weight on the front tire and would probably like the Acura too.
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| Why is it late September, and the only 2009 model I see on Pontiac's website is a Vibe? There is no option to build a 2009 G8... What's up with that??? I have also heard there is no Manual transmission option on the GT this year, either. And you can have any interior color, as long as it's black. They are going to kill this car faster than the GTO! | |
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Replying to: mrpushrod (Sep 18, 2008 6:29 am) That is because you in particular put driving characteristics in the "value" column. I am a road race instructor, so I also put this in my value column, however, I absolutely understand that 90% of the car buying public don't care what name or how their car handles. They see them as an applicance that takes them from point A to point B at the best gas milage, least CELs, and least maintenance cost. That is the value that they want. These are the folks who buy accords, camarys, and the other cars you put down as being "boring". Unfortunately boring sells well. Especially right now when money is getting more scarece. As much as I refer to Cam/cord/altima as refrigirators to my non-car enthusiast friends they say "Yup, that's what I want". So "value" is very subjective however if Ford or GM or Chrysler sold a superior product with lower cost of ownership and more "value" then they would be outselling the Camcordtima 2-1. Why aren't they outselling them? -mike
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