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Re: [pao] by paisan
Sep 15, 2008 (3:41 pm)
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Replying to: pao (Sep 15, 2008 5:42 am)

do we define toyota and honda as imports now that both the accord and the camry are built here in the US now??..even BMW builds their SUVs here in the US now.....so when do we blur the line...and no longer consider it an import....
  
parts may be imported....but does point of assembly count more.....Im not so much worried about import vs domestic.....but the US manufacturers are still playing catch up...are making progress......but only time will tell

 
I agree, and more to the point why do we care so much about where a product is made, so long as the product is GOOD. I would buy a car from India or Ireland, or South Africa if the product was going to give me good value for my money. Be it "value" in terms of fun, or reliability or what not.
 
With that said, let's try to keep this on the topic of the G8 rather than US v. Imports, there are lots of those topics we can carry this discussion on in.
 
-mike
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Re: Reputation? [paisan] by circlew
Sep 16, 2008 (9:57 am)
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Replying to: paisan (Sep 15, 2008 3:32 pm)

But the names mean something. The chassis are better and the cars are more reliable and therefore sell well.
 
What is a G8?? Should have called it Grand Prix. It's almost as if they knew GP's were junk and didn't want to tarnish a good example of what Pontiac should have been making HERE IN THE US all along.
 
Regards,
OW
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Re: Reputation? [circlew] by tayl0rd
Sep 16, 2008 (10:48 am)
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Replying to: circlew (Sep 16, 2008 9:57 am)

Actually, the G8 replaced the Bonneville. The Grand Prix is still dredging along. Why? They have the G4, G6, G8. Why not throw in G5 for Vibe (or is there already a G5 and no G4? ) and G7 for Grand Prix? Then call the Solstice the G1. Or, maybe, the G-whiz!
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Re: Reputation? [tayl0rd] by circlew
Sep 16, 2008 (12:29 pm)
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Replying to: tayl0rd (Sep 16, 2008 10:48 am)

The G-whiz is owned by Infinity!
 
Regards,
OW
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Re: Reputation? [circlew] by paisan
Sep 16, 2008 (4:10 pm)
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Replying to: circlew (Sep 16, 2008 9:57 am)

But the names mean something. The chassis are better and the cars are more reliable and therefore sell well.
  
What is a G8?? Should have called it Grand Prix. It's almost as if they knew GP's were junk and didn't want to tarnish a good example of what Pontiac should have been making HERE IN THE US all along.
  
Regards,
OW

 
Again, I repeat, what does it matter where or by who or by what name a car is? So long as it delivers "value" (whatever that value may be to an individual)?
 
I guess the name itself could be the "value" but those folks who buy on name alone, are pretty shallow people to begin with. Guess that's why, although I like MB and BMW, I never really was able to get along with the other owners because a lot of them had bought for the name alone.
 
-mike
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reputation by mrpushrod
Sep 16, 2008 (6:21 pm)
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It matters what the name plate is because even though Buick Cadillac jaguar Lincoln Mercury Toyota & Honda are tied in overall quality, some people in this thread make comments like
 
"All cars designed and built in the U.S.A. by Ford, GM and Chrysler are of secondary quality. The foreign manufacturers, including GM-owned Holden show their quality in looks, driving feel and lasting quality far better."
 
Yet the same person asks why GM doesn't make the G8 in America. The obvious answer: then prejudice people that don't believe the V6 Merc. Milan is much more reliable than a V6 Camry won't buy it.
 
This is because they have owned a handful of old American cars and believe their test results on dependability is far superior and scientific than the thousands of surveys CR & JD powers conducted. What do you do with the phony expert.
 
BTW, I both my vette & 94 Impalla SS are/were fun America vehicles
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Re: reputation [mrpushrod] by circlew
Sep 17, 2008 (2:36 am)
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Replying to: mrpushrod (Sep 16, 2008 6:21 pm)

The market talks. I know nothing in comparison. The media loves Honda and Toyota. Where have you been?
 
I posted this quote by Jack Welch on other forums which is appropriate at a time when the the Detroit 3 and the Financial Industry are experiencing hard times:
 
"Change before you have to."

 
The US manufactures are ridiculous!
 
Watch the customers not me. When a product is good I buy it. When there is better, I follow.
 
The G8 is good. I am not sure how much it will help GM since it is in limited supply so far.
 
Regards,
OW
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Reputation by mrpushrod
Sep 17, 2008 (4:14 am)
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The surveys were filled out by CUSTOMERS. They have spoken. CUSTOMERS that have perception issues would not buy an American nameplate even if in reality it was twice as reliable. Hondas & Toyota are all boring FWD vehicles with a false reputation of superior reliability. They are actually tied as I pointed out and proved to you several times now. Even a more reliable Fusion is more thrilling on a winding road than a Camry
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Re: Reputation [mrpushrod] by circlew
Sep 17, 2008 (6:29 am)
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Replying to: mrpushrod (Sep 17, 2008 4:14 am)

Here's one that you might find interesting:
 
This survey shows CUSTOMER choice for 2008 MY vehicles. 18 out of 26 segment winners are:
 
IMPORTS!
That is why G8 is a great choice!
 
2008 Motorist Choice Awards
 
I did not participate!
 
Regards,
OW
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Re: Reputation [mrpushrod] by bvdj84
Sep 18, 2008 (6:08 am)
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Replying to: mrpushrod (Sep 17, 2008 4:14 am)

I would rather have a Honda or toyota.
 
Though I was impressed with the G8! I would drive a white one, it was quite fun to drive! I loved the size, I felt right at home.

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