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Re: reputation [mrpushrod] by circlew
Sep 14, 2008 (4:13 pm)
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Replying to: mrpushrod (Sep 14, 2008 4:01 pm)

Honda and Toyota are a cut above Lincoln-Mercury, I'm afraid!
 
The G8 is finally what will compete. Again, it's an import. The cars that will excited should have been developed as the 'Vette and Mustang. Home-grown Camaro and Challenger. It takes desperate times and finally these classics return.
 
I wish you the best of luck with the G8 and your C5!
 
Regards,
OW
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by pao
Sep 15, 2008 (5:42 am)
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do we define toyota and honda as imports now that both the accord and the camry are built here in the US now??..even BMW builds their SUVs here in the US now.....so when do we blur the line...and no longer consider it an import....
 
parts may be imported....but does point of assembly count more.....Im not so much worried about import vs domestic.....but the US manufacturers are still playing catch up...are making progress......but only time will tell
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reputation by mrpushrod
Sep 15, 2008 (10:34 am)
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Which division did Mercedes sell off when times got tough??? Why do you want to ship a profit back to Japan every time they sell a Camry? Why is the UAW strangling our companies for better wages, health care and unheard off layoff packages, when we are not competitive now? At least the Holden plant is a subsidiary of GM much like our Toyota plants here are for Toyota. I like to see GM take a profit for the vehicles made and sold elsewhere. This benifits the US economy.
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Re: Reputation? [circlew] by paisan
Sep 15, 2008 (3:32 pm)
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Replying to: circlew (Sep 13, 2008 12:08 pm)

What's so bad about that? If you change models every three years you have to start all over and never get it right.
  
Vette, Mustang, 3-series, Corolla, Civic.

 
No I mean the same car. The Ford Ranger has not changed at all in 15 years other than very minor tweaks. Same for the GM/CV. The Vette, Mustang, 3-series, Corolla, Civic have all changed a lot over the past 15 years, the chassis are different.
 
-mike
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Re: [pao] by paisan
Sep 15, 2008 (3:41 pm)
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Replying to: pao (Sep 15, 2008 5:42 am)

do we define toyota and honda as imports now that both the accord and the camry are built here in the US now??..even BMW builds their SUVs here in the US now.....so when do we blur the line...and no longer consider it an import....
  
parts may be imported....but does point of assembly count more.....Im not so much worried about import vs domestic.....but the US manufacturers are still playing catch up...are making progress......but only time will tell

 
I agree, and more to the point why do we care so much about where a product is made, so long as the product is GOOD. I would buy a car from India or Ireland, or South Africa if the product was going to give me good value for my money. Be it "value" in terms of fun, or reliability or what not.
 
With that said, let's try to keep this on the topic of the G8 rather than US v. Imports, there are lots of those topics we can carry this discussion on in.
 
-mike
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Re: Reputation? [paisan] by circlew
Sep 16, 2008 (9:57 am)
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Replying to: paisan (Sep 15, 2008 3:32 pm)

But the names mean something. The chassis are better and the cars are more reliable and therefore sell well.
 
What is a G8?? Should have called it Grand Prix. It's almost as if they knew GP's were junk and didn't want to tarnish a good example of what Pontiac should have been making HERE IN THE US all along.
 
Regards,
OW
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Re: Reputation? [circlew] by tayl0rd
Sep 16, 2008 (10:48 am)
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Replying to: circlew (Sep 16, 2008 9:57 am)

Actually, the G8 replaced the Bonneville. The Grand Prix is still dredging along. Why? They have the G4, G6, G8. Why not throw in G5 for Vibe (or is there already a G5 and no G4? ) and G7 for Grand Prix? Then call the Solstice the G1. Or, maybe, the G-whiz!
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Re: Reputation? [tayl0rd] by circlew
Sep 16, 2008 (12:29 pm)
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Replying to: tayl0rd (Sep 16, 2008 10:48 am)

The G-whiz is owned by Infinity!
 
Regards,
OW
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Re: Reputation? [circlew] by paisan
Sep 16, 2008 (4:10 pm)
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Replying to: circlew (Sep 16, 2008 9:57 am)

But the names mean something. The chassis are better and the cars are more reliable and therefore sell well.
  
What is a G8?? Should have called it Grand Prix. It's almost as if they knew GP's were junk and didn't want to tarnish a good example of what Pontiac should have been making HERE IN THE US all along.
  
Regards,
OW

 
Again, I repeat, what does it matter where or by who or by what name a car is? So long as it delivers "value" (whatever that value may be to an individual)?
 
I guess the name itself could be the "value" but those folks who buy on name alone, are pretty shallow people to begin with. Guess that's why, although I like MB and BMW, I never really was able to get along with the other owners because a lot of them had bought for the name alone.
 
-mike
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reputation by mrpushrod
Sep 16, 2008 (6:21 pm)
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It matters what the name plate is because even though Buick Cadillac jaguar Lincoln Mercury Toyota & Honda are tied in overall quality, some people in this thread make comments like
 
"All cars designed and built in the U.S.A. by Ford, GM and Chrysler are of secondary quality. The foreign manufacturers, including GM-owned Holden show their quality in looks, driving feel and lasting quality far better."
 
Yet the same person asks why GM doesn't make the G8 in America. The obvious answer: then prejudice people that don't believe the V6 Merc. Milan is much more reliable than a V6 Camry won't buy it.
 
This is because they have owned a handful of old American cars and believe their test results on dependability is far superior and scientific than the thousands of surveys CR & JD powers conducted. What do you do with the phony expert.
 
BTW, I both my vette & 94 Impalla SS are/were fun America vehicles

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