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Replying to: mrpushrod (Sep 12, 2008 8:12 pm) I go by this, usually...my BMW wasn't a bad choice because it is high in desirability as well. If you are a driver, you will know. Otherwise, DSFDF. 2008 Vehicle Dependability Study Audi and Mercedes have a way to go but if you want Ultra high reliability, Toyota and Honda are the standard. To me, their desirability is low but to others, dependability is what is paramount. Since the G8 is a Pontiac model, you can see the lower reliability which you would call average. The G8, hopefully changes that because it is IMPORTED! Regards, OW Regards, OW
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Replying to: circlew (Sep 13, 2008 5:02 am) Crown vic is a bad example, just like the ford ranger because they haven't changed them in about 15+ years! If you always make the same car then yeah eventually you'll get it right.  -mike
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Replying to: paisan (Sep 13, 2008 11:45 am) What's so bad about that? If you change models every three years you have to start all over and never get it right. Vette, Mustang, 3-series, Corolla, Civic. Regards, OW
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I think you stand corrected. Honda, Toyota, Mercury & Lincoln are the standard for dependability (Again, only if you can get by your prejudices). All of which are fairly boring cars. I need low end grunt/torque & preferably RWD to have fun. Love to kick the rear-end out from time to time. My wife actually drives the G8 as a daily ride. It is not even a close substitute for the C5 vette. Maybe the GXP will fare better. One more feather in the American car makers caps is the tenacity to keep the smaller, lighter, simpler pushrod engine alive.
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Replying to: mrpushrod (Sep 14, 2008 4:01 pm) The G8 is finally what will compete. Again, it's an import. The cars that will excited should have been developed as the 'Vette and Mustang. Home-grown Camaro and Challenger. It takes desperate times and finally these classics return. I wish you the best of luck with the G8 and your C5! Regards, OW |
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do we define toyota and honda as imports now that both the accord and the camry are built here in the US now??..even BMW builds their SUVs here in the US now.....so when do we blur the line...and no longer consider it an import.... parts may be imported....but does point of assembly count more.....Im not so much worried about import vs domestic.....but the US manufacturers are still playing catch up...are making progress......but only time will tell
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| Which division did Mercedes sell off when times got tough??? Why do you want to ship a profit back to Japan every time they sell a Camry? Why is the UAW strangling our companies for better wages, health care and unheard off layoff packages, when we are not competitive now? At least the Holden plant is a subsidiary of GM much like our Toyota plants here are for Toyota. I like to see GM take a profit for the vehicles made and sold elsewhere. This benifits the US economy. | |
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Replying to: circlew (Sep 13, 2008 12:08 pm) Vette, Mustang, 3-series, Corolla, Civic. No I mean the same car. The Ford Ranger has not changed at all in 15 years other than very minor tweaks. Same for the GM/CV. The Vette, Mustang, 3-series, Corolla, Civic have all changed a lot over the past 15 years, the chassis are different. -mike |
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Replying to: pao (Sep 15, 2008 5:42 am) parts may be imported....but does point of assembly count more.....Im not so much worried about import vs domestic.....but the US manufacturers are still playing catch up...are making progress......but only time will tell I agree, and more to the point why do we care so much about where a product is made, so long as the product is GOOD. I would buy a car from India or Ireland, or South Africa if the product was going to give me good value for my money. Be it "value" in terms of fun, or reliability or what not. With that said, let's try to keep this on the topic of the G8 rather than US v. Imports, there are lots of those topics we can carry this discussion on in. -mike |
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Replying to: paisan (Sep 15, 2008 3:32 pm) What is a G8?? Should have called it Grand Prix. It's almost as if they knew GP's were junk and didn't want to tarnish a good example of what Pontiac should have been making HERE IN THE US all along. Regards, OW |
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