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Re: keep your Camry [mrpushrod] by actualsize
Aug 14, 2008 (12:06 pm)
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Replying to: mrpushrod (Aug 13, 2008 7:52 pm)

I'm not pushing the Camry. And I didn't say that a Camry built in the US puts more money in the USA than a G8 built in Australia. I'm only saying that it isn't as simple as looking at the badge. A lot of people who get paid salaries and spend money and pay taxes in their homelands are involved in the process. I don't know which scenario is better for the USA at the end of the day, but I bet its a close-run thing.
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Re: keep your Camry [actualsize] by circlew
Aug 14, 2008 (12:19 pm)
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Replying to: actualsize (Aug 14, 2008 12:06 pm)

Hey, I am sure 70% of the fuel everyone uses is not from the US. You will use $3,000 of RUG per year in a G8 GT assuming 19 MPG. So, $12,600 goes out of the US for each G8 driven for 15K miles and 6 years + whatever % Australia gets from the $33K initial purchase.
 
Welcome to the Global Economy! Everything is connected.
 
Regards,
OW
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Re: keep your Camry [circlew] by bvdj84
Aug 15, 2008 (3:26 am)
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Replying to: circlew (Aug 14, 2008 12:19 pm)

I almost feel the G8 is like a very cool, fast family sedan. I sat in one, and it really almost reminded me of the 7th generation of the Accord. Perhaps that is what they are gearing for most now, keeping it practical, while adding the sport theme to it all. Like the Dodge Charger, I see many use it, as their main family sedan. If this were a 2 door car only, I think it would limit its usage and lose a few consumers. Now they won't have to compromise comfort with their family when it comes to choosing a car, they can get their sporty appeal, while still being quite practical. I am also very suprised on how economic, even the V8 really is, and looks better than most.
 
I am very impressed with the overall appeal, love the color palate offered for this car.
If they want to bring back the Pontiac with a new look and name, then they started in the right direction. Because word is, they could get rid of the Pontiac name in the near future.
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Re: keep your Camry [mrpushrod] by guy1974
Aug 15, 2008 (9:15 am)
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Replying to: mrpushrod (Aug 13, 2008 7:52 pm)

Pushrod - Volvo and Mazda make profits and provide assistance with the development of the Euro Focus (and family of cars including C-Max, Kuga etc). So they are helping Ford.
 
Unions are not the problem in of themselves, it is when they AND management strike expensive deals. Again Management agree to this. Unions do not do any harm to BMW in Germany.
 
Bush gets the blame because the economy has been screwed up under his and GOP rule. Unlike the 90's under the Democrats.
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by cracovian
Aug 15, 2008 (11:01 am)
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Mr. pushrod's 2 cents left me speechless... The "unwieldy-handling Camry" does save fuel, it's what people care about these days, and as circlew correctly mentioned, it reduces our dependence (60% comes from overseas) on foreign oil. "Profit" stays in the US - what profit? Negative $15.5 billion every quarter? Maybe it's because GM pays Mexican, Canadian, and now Chinese salaries more than ever? Assembling Japanese cars here works out better for this economy though we shouldn't be in this business in the first place anymore. Making Buicks for the Chinese is the only thing GM does well these days.
 
Let's stay on topic though - Yes, if I wanted a rear-wheel well-built sedan for driving ~5K miles/year, I'd get this car instead of the BMW. But the Camry is in its own class and it satisfies more practical needs, so let's not mix it in here.
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keep your Camry by mrpushrod
Aug 15, 2008 (5:02 pm)
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I am used to dealing with American car bashers. The fact is Volvo reported a loss of $151 million in the first quarter of 2008. Simple enough to track down “leftlanenews.com. They have been an overall big drain on Ford since the purchase – Do your own research
 
The fuel used to build the G8 comes from Australia NOT the US
 
And as “cracovian” pointed out yet again – The Camry does handle unwieldy. Furthermore, the V6 Camry is NOT recommended by consumer reports because it is not reliable according to owner surveys. This means it is really unreliable because there is still a perception that American cars are not as reliable as their Japanese counterparts. This is according to JD powers. As a matter of fact JD powers just announced that American vehicles on the contrary to popular beliefs ARE as reliable (spread is negligible) as their Japanese counterparts and more reliable than vehicles from Europe.
 
As far as mileage goes, who cares if a Hybrid or even 4 cyl. Camry gets good gas mileage. I drove the vehicle next to the reliable fusion. It is an appliance. They all spin the wrong wheels. That’s what Japan gave us – Vehicles with 60% of the weight on the front tires (not a good scenario for handling) while serving up plenty of torque steer.. Step on the gas, all weight goes to the rear of the vehicle. Faster you accelerate, the lighter the front drive wheels get. Step on the brakes when entering a corner, watch the rear end lift up as all what little weight there is on the rear tires shifts to the front. What is the first thing taught in racing school. Keep the weight balanced front to back via gas and brake for optimum handling.
 
At least GM’s caddy division realized this is no way to build a car. Yet Honda with its Acura line is still trying to defy physics.
 
Lastly, GM is not going to put a Camry engine in the 2009 G8 GXP. They are going to put an old fashion pushrod V8 borrowed from the Corvette stable. So I guess you would believe this is going to hurt the America economy because they are not looking at Toyota for their higher performance sedans engine.
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Re: keep your Camry [mrpushrod] by paisan
Aug 15, 2008 (5:09 pm)
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Replying to: mrpushrod (Aug 15, 2008 5:02 pm)

Guys there are plenty of foreign v. american car discussions. Let's keep this on topic.
 
-mike
Motorsports and Modifications Host
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Re: keep your Camry [guy1974] by pao
Aug 15, 2008 (6:34 pm)
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Replying to: guy1974 (Aug 15, 2008 9:15 am)

disagree with the last statement...the country has taken a nose dive since the 06 democratic congress was voted in on a we can make a change campaign promise.....the last two years have been a disaster.....so is it congress or the president....I say congress.......now back to the car forum.....
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silent cylinder deactivation? by bvdj84
Aug 16, 2008 (8:46 am)
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I am wondering if anyone can feel the cylinder deactivation on the G8? Dealer told me, that they cannot feel it, obviously, I am in their lot, so they won't tell me honestly.
 
Let me know, many are freaking out on the 08 Accord VCM V6, saying they can feel it, but not realizing once its broken in more, its could in fact improve with more miles.
 
Is the G8 flawless when it comes to this feature?
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silent cylinder deactivation? by mrpushrod
Aug 16, 2008 (9:58 am)
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Yes, you can feel it. I own a G8 GT and drove two other G8s. It gives you a slight vibration when it is in 4 cyl mode.It does this when you are cruising along with a light foot on the gas pedal. The more you keep it in this mode the higher the MPG. You can disable it by shifting into sport mode. I achieved 26MPG on a trip by keeping light foot on the accelerator. The G8 does very well on highway gas mileage. All around we get around 20MPG. What's funny is we traded a Lincoln Town Car for the G8 that had dual exhaust and a low rear end ratio (Cartier addition and limo's have this setup) and it achieved an excellent 22MPG all around yet highway mileage was ~ 23.5 MPG (less than the G8. The G8 engine is very quiet and smooth other than when it is in this mode. There is no jerk or when you go in and out of this mode and power delivery is always consistent and there when you need it. And as expected with an engine this size, torque is unbeatable. Anyone driving a vehicle with a 4 Cyl or V6 will appreciate the torque.

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