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Tried to lease...moved on quickly by jdtgold
Jul 06, 2008 (9:57 am)
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After test driving the car, I was very impressed with its acceleration, handling, and price. I had recently test drove a BMW 335 with a sticker of $44,000 and can easily see why the G8 can be seen as a less expensive alternative to that car. You lose a little bit on the interior of the G8, but it is $10,000.00 less. Unfortunately once I had the opportunity to sit down and talk lease numbers (39 mos. and 15K miles/yr), I realized that nobody in the world is going to lease this car and I am not going to the be first. With my GM supplier number it was about $2,600 down (taxes, tags, etc.- no cap costs) and $570/month. That's right...$570/MONTH!!! Depreciation and interest rate available on the G8 keep the lease payments pretty close to the 335. If the lease payments are the same, BMW wins this contest without a problem.
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Re: Tried to lease...moved on quickly [jdtgold] by paisan
Jul 06, 2008 (10:06 am)
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Replying to: jdtgold (Jul 06, 2008 9:57 am)

Well of course, it's an american car so the risidual value will be significantly less than that of a luxury car.
 
The other problem is the power and size is a lot more than that of a 335, you'd have to compare it to a 560ish.
 
-mike
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Re: Tried to lease...moved on quickly [jdtgold] by circlew
Jul 07, 2008 (3:34 am)
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Replying to: jdtgold (Jul 06, 2008 9:57 am)

You can't lease any American car cheap due to horrendous residuals. I tried it with a 300C SRT8 in 2006 and the BMW I leased was a no-brainer. Also didn't know gas would be $4.00/gallon back then so the Bimmer saves there also.
 
Better wait for cylinder deactivation going forward for the G8 V-8 to be viable, IMHO.
 
Regards,
OW
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Re: Tried to lease...moved on quickly [circlew] by jdtgold
Jul 07, 2008 (5:03 am)
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Replying to: circlew (Jul 07, 2008 3:34 am)

Exactly. The awful residuals on G8 (51% - 36 mos./15Kmiles) combined with terrible interest rates and the lack of any lease programs make a $30,000 Pontiac lease payment similar to that of a $44,000 BMW.
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V8 Re: Tried to lease...moved on quickly [circlew] by rayainsw
Jul 07, 2008 (6:35 am)
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Replying to: circlew (Jul 07, 2008 3:34 am)

“Better wait for cylinder deactivation going forward for the G8 V-8 to be viable IMHO.”
 
The G8 GT’s 6.0L V8 does have cylinder deactivation – GM previously called this DoD, now AFM.
 
- Ray
Likely to buy a 2009 . . .
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Fuel Type for Pontiac G8 by lvhatchbk
Jul 15, 2008 (8:49 am)
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Can someone tell me what fuel is recommended for the G8? I have read that you can use regular and have also read it requires premium. This would be for the V-8 engine.
 
Thanks.
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Re: Fuel Type for Pontiac G8 [lvhatchbk] by tayl0rd
Jul 15, 2008 (9:00 am)
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Replying to: lvhatchbk (Jul 15, 2008 8:49 am)

Regular.
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Re: Fuel Type for Pontiac G8 [lvhatchbk] by actualsize
Jul 15, 2008 (10:36 am)
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Replying to: lvhatchbk (Jul 15, 2008 8:49 am)

Even though I know what you mean, your question highlights a common point of confusion: the difference between "recommended" and "required" when it comes to octane.
 
If the word "required" is used, end of story. A 91 octane requirement is a hard stop. Of course you are free to go higher, if you can find it and are willing to pay.
 
If "recommend" is in the language, then things are different. In many cases, 91 is recommended (small print: for best performance) but usually there will be a sentence saying that 87 can be used without a problem. The higher octane fuel is needed to achieve the advertised horsepower and 0-60 times, but the engine and its controlling software can handle 87 octane, just fine.
 
If the manufacturer wants to advertise the higher horsepower, the common practice has been to "recommend" the higher fuel and allow the lower grade. I'm not sure if there is a legal requirement to do this if they want to advertise the higher horsepower rating, or not.
 
The G8 falls into this boat. Premium is necessary to get the advertised horsepower and performance, but the engine is designed and calibrated to run reliably on 87, too.
 
In recognition of the public's recent concerns about fuel costs, GM has changed the wording a little bit. From the GM media website, with respect to the 2008 Pontiac G8...
 
"Recommended fuel: regular unleaded (premium maximizes performance)"
 
This flexibility isn't universal across the board, however. Many cars have the word "required" in their owner's manuals, and they mean it. Severe detonation could occur in these engines, causing damage over the long term that would cost much more to repair than the savings incurred by running fuel 87 in them. But the G8 isn't one of these cars.
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Re: Fuel Type for Pontiac G8 [actualsize] by lvhatchbk
Jul 15, 2008 (1:17 pm)
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Replying to: actualsize (Jul 15, 2008 10:36 am)

Thanks for clearing that up.
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SVTguy by svtguy
Jul 15, 2008 (4:03 pm)
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I would buy a G8 GT tomorrow if it was offered with a manual transmission (not just in the pricier, less fuel efficient GXP version). I will probably get a Mustang instead, even though I would prefer many features of the G8. Auto trans is a deal killer for me, and I imagine many performance seekers.

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