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#805 of 1265 Re: when? Re: A forum where only cheers are permitted? [rayainsw] by emale May 30, 2008 (5:49 am)
Replying to: rayainsw (May 29, 2008 11:48 am) i'll bet silver will look pretty sharp on the g8! especially with that character crease running from the front fender all the way back to the rear quarter panel.   btw, speaking of that upper crease, have any of u considered a pin stripe? just wondering as i did see a gray gt with a white pinstripe that started near the crease above the front fender side vents, and ran all the way back to the rear quarters. i must admit that it looked pretty sharp! i've been conteplating same for my panther black gt...
#806 of 1265 Re: appeal... [white6] by qbrozen May 30, 2008 (8:13 am)
Replying to: white6 (May 29, 2008 12:32 pm) ah, ok. When you said "roomier" I assumed you meant all around.
#807 of 1265 Perhaps the G8 might go away too! by circlew Jun 20, 2008 (12:40 pm)
But in addition to give the Hummer brand the boot, GM is also considering putting another brand on the chopping block. The front runner for extermination looks to be GMC, although Pontiac is also said to be in the mix.   Here is the link. Perhaps GMC will be axed in favor of Pontiac but who knows?   Either way, it's a long time coming and a no-brainer from my point of view either way!   link title   Regards, OW Replies to this message: jpf (Jun 20, 2008 2:18 pm) ryster (Jun 22, 2008 4:48 am) nojets (Jun 20, 2008 5:32 pm) circlew (Jun 21, 2008 5:16 am)
#808 of 1265 Re: Perhaps the G8 might go away too! [circlew] by jpf Jun 20, 2008 (2:18 pm)
Replying to: circlew (Jun 20, 2008 12:40 pm) GM should dump Hummer, Pontiac, Buick, Saab and Saturn. For a company with only 20% of the market they have way too many brands. Just my opinion. Replies to this message: ryster (Jun 22, 2008 4:48 am)
#809 of 1265 Re: Perhaps the G8 might go away too! [circlew] by nojets Jun 20, 2008 (5:32 pm)
Replying to: circlew (Jun 20, 2008 12:40 pm) Pontiac should be put out of its misery and the only decent car they pretend to make (the Holden) should be sold through Chevrolet as a Corvette stablemate, especially as they have related engines. Then they can put the Holden front end back on, which looks SO much classier, slap a Bow Tie on each end, add a navigation option and probably increase the MSRP. Chevy competes well above its weight with the Corvette, and they have the right car to do the same with a four door sports sedan. Replies to this message: circlew (Jun 21, 2008 5:16 am)
#810 of 1265 Re: Perhaps the G8 might go away too! [nojets] by circlew Jun 21, 2008 (5:16 am)
Replying to: nojets (Jun 20, 2008 5:32 pm) Your assessment makes sense to me. G8 is the only desirable car IMHO.   Bye Bye Indian Company!   Regards, OW
#811 of 1265 Re: Perhaps the G8 might go away too! [jpf] by ryster Jun 22, 2008 (4:48 am)
Replying to: jpf (Jun 20, 2008 2:18 pm) GM needs to consolidate and focus its brands, that's for sure!   Dump Saturn. The Aura and Outlook are redundant. The Chevy Malibu and upcoming Chevy Traverse will handily outsell the Saturn equivalents. The Astra is completely unnecessary. The Sky either goes away or becomes an entry-level Cadillac.   Sell Saab and Hummer to the highest bidders.   GMC should be dumped. It is simply not needed.   Buick should be kept and repositioned as a Lexus competitor. Mid and Large sized luxury sedans and luxury crossovers.   Pontiac should be kept as a domestic alternative to BMW. The G8 can easily compete with the 5-series. The G6 should go RWD to compete with the 3-series. The Solstice can go up against the Z4. The Vibe becomes a Chevy.   Chevy stays and competes all-around with the other domestics as well as Honda/Toyota/Hyundai/Mazda/etc.. When the current FWD Impala goes away in 2012, Chevy gets their own version of the RWD G8 with a Chevy front/rear/interior and renamed the Caprice. The Malibu isn't that far off in size from the Impala and could easily pick up the Impala sales.   Cadillac stays as GM's flagship brand to compete with Mercedes and Jaguar. They inherit the Sky roadster from Saturn, give it a folding hardtop, and sell it as an entry level luxury convertible.
#812 of 1265 Holding out for GXP...I Think?!?! by michael1973 Jun 25, 2008 (5:29 am)
Despite lots of Google searches I can't seem to find the answer to this question...   I've heard that the GXP version of this car is going to get slapped with the gas guzzler tax which could amount to a couple grand. The simple question is, "If I'm going to lease this car, do I have to pay the entire tax during the term of my lease?" If the tax were $2,400 for example and I leased for 24 months, another $200 each month on the payment is really going to stink! Replies to this message: circlew (Jun 25, 2008 6:49 am) michael1973 (Jun 25, 2008 7:49 am)
#813 of 1265 Re: Holding out for GXP...I Think?!?! [michael1973] by circlew Jun 25, 2008 (6:49 am)
Replying to: michael1973 (Jun 25, 2008 5:29 am) Add in the extra $50 per month for added gas costs and the formula gets even worse!   Since the tax is added to the MSRP, you will need to pay at lease a portion of the tax for how long you use it at the very least. The importer pays so I assume the lessee will get passed this tax. Very good question and part of the answer is below.   Here is the instructions on the tax form for the importer or MFG.:   Use Form 6197 to figure the gas guzzler tax. The gas guzzler tax is imposed on the sale, use, or lease by the manufacturer or importer of an automobile of a model type that does not meet certain standards for fuel economy. Automobiles imported for business or personal use are subject to the tax. If you import a gas guzzling automobile, you may be eligible to make a one-time filing for which no employer identification number is needed and no deposit is required. See One-Time Filing below for more information. If you need more space, attach a schedule in the same format as Part II. If you import a gas guzzling automobile, you may be eligible to make a one-time filing of Form 720 and Form 6197 if you meet both of the following conditions: Instructions for Part I The tax liability is figured each quarter and reported on Form 720. See the Instructions for Form 720 for information on how to   We need to find out the tax treatment in the lease contract.   Regards, Replies to this message: michael1973 (Jun 25, 2008 7:49 am)
#814 of 1265 Re: Holding out for GXP...I Think?!?! [circlew] by michael1973 Jun 25, 2008 (7:49 am)
Replying to: circlew (Jun 25, 2008 6:49 am) What makes it confusing is that the IRS form indicates that the gas guzzler tax is imposed on the first-time sale of the car only. See this link. Hmmm.   Where the rubber meets the road is that I have a 27 month lease on a Saab 9-5 which ends a year from October (16 months left). My father-in-law is retired GM so I get GMS pricing. Both the G8 GXP and my Saab 9-5 are going to sticker for the same amount ~$40k. I'm wondering whether when all is said and done their lease payments will work out to be similar. I'm hoping that the G8 works out to be less so that I can tell my wife that even with the poor gas mileage the cost-to-own works out to be similar.

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