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#754 of 1266
Saw My First G8 Today by nojets
May 21, 2008 (5:34 am)
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It was pulled off on the side of the freeway, receiving a speeding ticket...
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i got one... by emale
May 21, 2008 (9:49 am)
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okay guys, i made the leap this past week. turned in the leased g35 coupe and picked up a black g8 gt with premium package and 18 inch all season tires. got the car in a suburb of minneapolis. dealership had a 1k markup but they waved it. they had also put one of those stupid paint sealant packages on the car and i only gave them half of what they wanted for that. so, all in all my cap cost on the new lease was based pretty close to the msrp. not great, and i'm sure if i'd have waited a couple more months i could have gotten a better deal, but you know how it is!
 
initial impressions after 400 miles of driving. very stable ride, nicely weighted steering, fairly quiet inside at speed, v8 has copious amounts of grunt when you put your foot in it, brakes seem appropriately strong, driver's seat is comfortable.
 
couple gripes. the red digital displays are a bit difficult to read with sunglasses on, except for of course the oil and charge readouts which are very big and bright! gm's manual shift function doesn't work as well as infiniti's. my g35 would blip the throttle almost perfectly for downshifts...the 6L80E isn't nearly as smooth. and the headlights are nothing to brag about. they are okay, but could be brighter imo. and the car has a somewhat lumpy idle. otherwise so far i'm enjoying the ride!!
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Re: i got one... [emale] by emale
May 21, 2008 (9:52 am)
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Replying to: emale (May 21, 2008 9:49 am)

btw, if anyone is wondering about the AFM system on the engine, the only way i could detect that it (the engine) was running in 4 cylinder mode was a slight drone in the sound of the engine or exhaust.
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AFM detect Re: i got one... [emale] by rayainsw
May 21, 2008 (10:33 am)
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Replying to: emale (May 21, 2008 9:52 am)

There is also a display in Engineering Mode -
if you are really curious....
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Re: AFM detect Re: i got one... [rayainsw] by emale
May 21, 2008 (11:23 am)
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Replying to: rayainsw (May 21, 2008 10:33 am)

how do you get to engineering mode? i've looked all over the manual with no success. also, i can't figure out how to display the oil life monitor...
 
just trying to save ahead of time for the next oil change since the 6L takes 8.8 quarts to fill with filter change!
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Re: AFM detect Re: i got one... [emale] by rayainsw
May 21, 2008 (11:46 am)
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Replying to: emale (May 21, 2008 11:23 am)

My understand is
( from [ very ] un-official sources )
 
(Hold the enter button when turning the key on)
 
Software Version
GM Part Number
Battery Voltage
Battery Charge (%)
Remaining Fuel (gal)
Instant Fuel (gal/hr)
Coolant Temp
Speed
Tach
Tire Pressure
Engine Oil Life (%)
Parking Lights (on/off)
Switch Voltage
Current Gear
Active Fuel Management
Throttle Position
Trans Sump Temp
 
Self Test
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Re: AFM detect Re: i got one... [rayainsw] by emale
May 21, 2008 (1:56 pm)
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Replying to: rayainsw (May 21, 2008 11:46 am)

that did indeed work. thanks!
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Why G8 not an M45 and why M45 not a Quattroporte by athens
May 23, 2008 (1:26 pm)
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I'm sorry but I have real doubts that the demographic group of 40+ year old professionals and corporate executives who buy M45s, (the few that are sold because the M35 outsells the M45 by 6 to 1), will be shopping a Pontiac G8 GT against an Infiniti M45. The professional or executive who is buying a car for conspicuous consumption will likely want to arrive at business meetings, at the country club which requires a $10,000 annual social expenditure, or at the courthouse for a significant case he is trying in a luxury marque car.
 
While the G8 seems to about as attractive a piece of machinery as has been offered by American automakers in many years, the Pontiac never has been nor is it being currently marketed as a luxury marque. Just as the Chrysler is not a luxury marque. The G8 and 300C fall into that peculiarly American (Canadian & Australian) automotive category known as the muscle car sport sedan. Likely the only American make of car that directly competes with the M45 is the Cadillac STS Northstar (if you can call a car being phased out competition).
 
That orthopedic surgeon and trial lawyer just might have some fond memories of a second hand Pontiac Sunbird or Chrysler K car, that they drove while in medical or law school, which ran rough and was prone to corrosion.
 
To be sure the G8 directly competes with the Dodge Charger and Chrysler 300. It offers a RWD alternative to the FWD Toyota Avalon (Aurion which it competes with in the home Australian market) and the Nissan Maxima. Given the current state of the economy I believe the impact a offering V8 will have in this market segment is still being over-estimated by GM.
 
The G8 GT may try to steal some entry level luxury buyers of Acura TLs, Infiniti G35s, MB C-class, BMW 3s and Audi A4s, but those cars are firmly entrenched in the market. Each has just been redesigned and offers similar performance in a true luxury brand. I can conceive the G8 doing the most damage in the market place to the Cadillac CTS. The last generation CTS brought out a V spec model with 400 hp and that car made little market penetration in its segment (against the E39 BMW M5).
 
But to say the G8 GT competes with the BMW 550 and Infinti M45 (why not throw in the Audi A6, MB E-class, Lexus GS, and for good measure the new Jaguar XF) I find to be a fantastic claim.
 
It's just in that same way that neither the Infiniti M nor even a BMW 550i directly compete with a Maserati Quattroporte or a Bentley Continental.
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what's with all the fuss? by emale
May 23, 2008 (11:32 pm)
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why does everybody over analyze the g8? the car is big, drives like it's much smaller and seems well built. gm seems to have finally built a decent rwd car...let's all just be happy about that!
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Re: Why G8 not an M45 and why M45 not a Quattroporte [athens] by paisan
May 24, 2008 (5:35 am)
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Replying to: athens (May 23, 2008 1:26 pm)

This car is for folks who want an M45, BMW550, E-class, etc. But either can't afford it or refuse to spend that much coin on a car. So yeah it doesn't compete with them, but it's not meant to compete with them. I see this as a more common man car. The young professional, 30 something, union guy, etc. Who would not otherwise have access to those highline cars yet still wants those features. These folks aren't caught up in a name moniker, or a built in Navigation system (my garmin works great).
 
That's where I see this car going. Folks who don't want a Maxima, Camry, Tarus, etc.
 
-mike

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