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How does a badge engineered Holden make Pontiacs better cars? by nojets
Mar 17, 2008 (8:31 pm)
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I have been reading reviews of the G8 and forum postings, and a common thread is that finally, with the G8, Pontiac is showing some much overdue improvements in vehicle dynamics and quality. For instance, I quote Edmunds own review:
 
Still, with the accomplished and affordable G8 in its stable, Pontiac is back. Score another one for the home team as GM continues to restore its reputation in the automotive marketplace.
 
Home team? Pontiac? Who are you kidding? This car is about as American as a can of Fosters. The fact is that GM's Pontiac division remains an embarrasment to the American motor industry with a range of tacky cars that epitomise the phrase "all hat and no cattle."
 
If Pontiac really want to earn those somewhat overly generous remarks from reviewers about coming back from the precipice of mediocrity, the managers of the brand need to sit down in a closed room with a G8 and their union thug bosses and just look at the car for a couple of hours. Then they need to figure out how they can make the American range live up to what Holden and even Vauxhall pull off every day. If they can't, for Pete's sake just close the production lines and go get a job at a Toyota plant...
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Re: How does a badge engineered Holden make Pontiacs better cars? [nojets] by circlew
Mar 18, 2008 (5:40 am)
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Replying to: nojets (Mar 17, 2008 8:31 pm)

...or just change the sign to Holden. They own the brand and these are real cars. Not the tin cans with wheels that have "Pontiac" on them currently.
 
Great post! I know a lot of past-loyal GM'ers are really PO'ed at the audacity and blindness of this once-huge corporation. Absolute power corrupts Absolutely.
 
I had a '97 GP GTP that started falling apart at 70K miles...
 
Regards,
OW
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Re: How does a badge engineered Holden make Pontiacs better cars? [nojets] by cracovian
Mar 18, 2008 (6:02 am)
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Replying to: nojets (Mar 17, 2008 8:31 pm)

FYI - That can of Fosters may say "imported" on the label but it is made in Canada like a ton of other "American" cars. At least the V8 in the G8 is made in Mexico instead of China where GM likes to make their engines now. Shame on them. When you buy an Equinox you support Communism I guess... At least the Camry hybrid is made in the States with high domestic content, so that would be a safe bet to keep jobs in America and hedge ourselves against $6/gallon
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G8 GT first impressions ( static ) by rayainsw
Mar 20, 2008 (9:00 am)
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So – I have now actually seen, touched & sat in a production G8 GT.
 
I realize that some have already put miles on their own G8s, but these have just started arriving here near Atlanta – and the closest dealer to where I live has already sold their initial ‘batch’ ( ? ) of 2.
 
I drove to the dealer closest to where I work at lunch today.
 
I knew they did not have one that I could drive, but I wanted to examine one ‘up close’ and check out several aspects for myself, after reading all the comments on this board.
 
Car: 888 w/Premium Pkg – no Sport, Mag Gray
In the showroom w/$5,000 ‘mark-up’.
[ sigh ]
Initial observations:
 
1 – The front seats adjust over quite a wide range, particularly up & down. Just sitting, they seem supportive – and in particular, the seat bottom is long enough to support my long legs. I will have to further evaluate them, once I can test drive one. The center armrest is rather far back & low – with no provision for adjustment that I could find.
 
2 – The materials, fit & finish throughout the interior are acceptable. For the price, I think that they are very good, in fact. I don’t see my ( MSRP $50K-ish ) Corvette as any better, in this department.
 
3 – Scrolling through some of the displays for the DIC, I was impressed with the information available & the quality of the display. This will be substituting for my HUD, particularly for the “Gear Selected” information, so I was particularly interested. Looks like it will be OK.
 
3A – The instruments seem well placed & clear – though a drive will tell me more. The steering wheel, set well up and all the way out does not block anything I need to see. [ The new, 2008 CTS that I rented last week had a rather odd arrangement, with the instruments sunk into deep wells – leaving portions of the gauges blocked, for me, by the rims of those wells. Weird. ]
 
4 – The exterior fit & finish are also very good. There is orange peel on the paint, but not an obnoxious amount. To me. Anything short of a top line Lexus seems to have some orange peel, these days. The door seams, etc. seemed even & the hood & trunk lid gaps look as small as one could reasonable expect.
 
5 – The trunk really is huge.
 
6 – The back seat also has a lot of room – head room, leg room and the ( crucial, often missing ) toe room under the front seats.
 
They had just received a white GT w/both Sport & Premium Pkg this AM.
It was in ‘clean-up’.
I may be able to drive this one – or one at another dealer on Saturday AM.
 
I did walk around the white one, and I do like the 19” wheels.
 
I don’t happen to like the contrast between the black strips that run all along each side of the roof and the white body color. They blend much better with the Mag Gray.
 
More when I have driven one . . .
- Ray
Grade, so far = A.
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Re: G8 GT first impressions ( static ) [rayainsw] by circlew
Mar 20, 2008 (7:45 pm)
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Replying to: rayainsw (Mar 20, 2008 9:00 am)

What did I tell you? Same garbage as the GTO. They can keep it! For SNG, I will do the same as the GTO...visit the dealer, tell the sales guy I want one and when he gives me the markup, I respond "Ain't happening, just like the GTO" "Keep it."
 
Wanna bet this thing goes back south in 2 years? It's the mark of death, IMHO, especially in this economy. So whats that, $38,00 for the GT?
 
 LOL...HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
 
Regards,
OW
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"keep it" \ ADM Re: G8 GT first impressions ( static ) [circlew] by rayainsw
Mar 21, 2008 (3:56 am)
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Replying to: circlew (Mar 20, 2008 7:45 pm)

- What did I tell you? Same garbage as the GTO. They can keep it! For SNG, I will do the same as the GTO...visit the dealer, tell the sales guy I want one and when he gives me the markup, I respond "Ain't happening, just like the GTO" "Keep it." –
 
The Sales Manager said ( to me & the salesperson showing me the car ) that the 888 ‘markup’ would not apply to any other G8s. Including the white one I hope to drive this weekend.
 
I have also read elsewhere that several have already purchased 888s MSRP.
 
As I stated above, if I do buy a G8, it will almost certainly be from the ( “invoice + $49 and no additional fees of any kind” ) dealer where I bought my Grand Prix.
 
With the volumes available over then next several months, I doubt that trying to add markup to the 888s will have any significant effect on sales. Not all Pontiac dealers ( there are 2000 or more, I believe ) will even have one 888.
 
We shall see.
 
- Ray
Ready for my test drive . . .
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Re: G8 GT first impressions ( static ) [rayainsw] by etcarroll
Mar 23, 2008 (4:18 pm)
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Replying to: rayainsw (Mar 20, 2008 9:00 am)

Ray - I seem to recall you and I being tall from old discussion in Malibu thread - so - if you test the white one, would you drop the seat to lowest point, and get an idea for how much space you have between head and roof liner and report back.
 
I'm 6'3", but only 32" in inseam, so my height is from waist up. The Malibu has been a good fit, but it's 7 years old with 180k, time to retire it.
 
Gene
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Re: G8 seems appropriate to me [elias] by jpstax1
Mar 25, 2008 (9:55 am)
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Replying to: elias (Mar 17, 2008 11:05 am)

[quote] hi walterquint. I'm a GTO owner and the G8 looks appropriate to me - especially since it will have satellite radio for 2009.
 
[reply] With Sirius buying XM, I wonder what will happen to my XM subscription?
 
[quote] If you think the current GT is inappropriate, wait until you hear about the 2009 G8 GXP (with stick-shift!). Yow!
 
[reply] Here are the latest posts about the G8 GXP at the gminsidenews site:
 
http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/f63/nyias-08-2009-pontiac-g8-gxp-62070/index7- .html
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XM Re: G8 seems appropriate to me [jpstax1] by rayainsw
Mar 25, 2008 (10:05 am)
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Replying to: jpstax1 (Mar 25, 2008 9:55 am)

What XM says:
 
http://www.xmradio.com/announcement/index.xmc?leopard=ticker
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Re: XM Re: G8 seems appropriate to me [rayainsw] by jpstax1
Mar 25, 2008 (12:53 pm)
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Replying to: rayainsw (Mar 25, 2008 10:05 am)

Thanks for posting the link! I never thought to look at their site, even though I extended my XM subscription to 2010. So, are they saying my car will be able to pick up Sirius stations as well as XM? That would be great because my wife and I are big NASCAR fans, and Sirius has a group of channels dedicated to the drivers.

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