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marketing \ advertising the G8 by rayainsw
Jan 31, 2008 (6:44 am)
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“. . its actually a 10-way seat. You'd think they'd advertise that, huh?”
 
A discussion of G8 marketing ( so far ) I expect will be fruitless.
 
Your point regarding the seat adjustments may be valid.
I have yet to see the actual ‘slick’ G8 sales brochure – though I understand that some dealers do have them.
 
I do recognize that there are significant difficulties with launching a car when it is produced overseas & shipped here across the ( wide ) ocean.
 
Yet it seems to me that GM \ Pontiac could have learned a thing or 2 about the logistics of such a launch from the GTO and from the many other import models launched each year.
 
Some potential buyers may well see this car at an upcoming auto show, grab a brochure & reject the G8 out of hand based on a quick scan of features list. Possibly discarding the G8 due to:
 
No integrated XM.
No HUD available.
6–way instead or 8 or 10 or 12-way adjustable seats.
Or some other item(s) that some potential buyers want \ need,
And that are missing at launch . . .
 
Crossing the G8 off any list of potential purchases based on the ‘check-list’ sort of preliminary evaluation seems a bit superficial & unfair – but I have actually “worked” a few auto shows here in Atlanta. And I have seen some ‘interesting’ reactions from people after spending just a few seconds in a front seat or scanning a window sticker.
 
One challenge for marketing of the G8 GT \ V8 ( I mean no disrespect in any of my posts regarding the V6 version – it is just not of any interest to me ) is that some people are likely to look at the GT as a ‘cut rate’ BMW 550i. And some will see it as a BMW ‘wannabe’.
 
I hasten to add immediately that I see no way that GM \ Pontiac ( or any manufacturer ) can provide ** ALL ** of the goodness built into a $58K+ MSRP BMW, for something in the low $30K range.
 
In the acceleration category, it appears ( darn the embargoed actual times various publications will likely release in a few weeks ) that the G8 GT will be quite close to the BMW 550. The trunk is larger.
 
The seats have what I see as ‘adequate’ adjustability – for me.
 
The key goal of marketing the G8, it seems to me, ought to be to convince people to go to a dealer & drive one.
 
I believe that most first year sales of the V8 version will be sold based on dynamics ( acceleration, transmission behavior, handling, ride, etc. ) and the interior being ‘good enough’. However one defines that.
 
Does this mean that bringing ( ‘rushing’?? ) the G8 to market, without items that some want or need, is a mistake?
 
I do not know.
 
I expect that the 2009 model year ( whenever that starts for the G8 – soon?? ) may bring one or 2 of these items.
 
Is it a mistake to launch with so few G8s ( V6s or V8s ) that many dealers will not have one. Possibly for months. And then, smaller dealers ( like where I bought my last Grand Prix ) may see only a very few for the whole rest of calendar 2008.
 
Again, I do not know.
 
Pending Edmunds ( and everyone else’s ) reports & my own opportunity to test drive one, the jury I still out on whether or not this will prove to be My Next Sport Sedan.
 
And it appears that with a relative few at dealers, it may be somewhat difficult to find somewhere to test drive a GT \ V8 – anytime soon. I drove about 200 miles ( round trip ) to test drive the first Grand Prix GXP delivered to a dealer in Georgia. Because I wanted to test drive one, right then – and make some decisions. Right now, although I am very, very curious – I can wait to make a decision.
 
For those who have been waiting for a RWD V8 Pontiac, and want or need ( lease ending soon, etc. ), I can see ( and I have read ) a level of annoyance & frustration with this whole situation.
 
We shall see how this plays out.
How initial sales go.
Etc.
 
Sounds like these should actually appear at ( some ) dealers within 30 days or so.
 
As I have said here before, I applaud GM \ Pontiac for bringing what appears to be a very good, V8 RWD Sport Sedan to market. I am watching with great interest, but no great urgency. . .
- Ray
Will drive some distance again, if required, for opportunity to test . . .
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Re: marketing \ advertising the G8 [rayainsw] by paisan
Jan 31, 2008 (6:52 am)
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Replying to: rayainsw (Jan 31, 2008 6:44 am)

Yup next spring I'll be in the market and I'll likely wait for the 2010 (due in spring 09) Legacy to come out as it will be full-sized with an H6 Turbo putting out around 350-375hp and a 6MT. So once that hits the market I'll compare that and the G8 and see which is better. I may also consider a used CTSV as well (1st gen).
 
-mike
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Got the G8 brochure by bigelm
Jan 31, 2008 (9:10 pm)
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Too many pages to scan but I can confirm that Pontiac marketing failed to identify that the premium pkg gives you power 6 way seats with manual height and lumbar adjustability. So technically you have a total of 10 way adjustments. Also it's for both driver and front passenger, at least the pic in the brochure shows this.
No mention on the 6MT in there though
 
Dealers are already tagging their vehicles as of Jan. 31, 2008. They will be able to tag their allocated amount for January and do so again for February. Tagging will end Feb. 27, 2008 for the first shipment, so if your dealer was unable to tag what you want the first time around, they can for February allotment.
 
Quoted GM Tagging Announcement
 
GM is pleased to announce that the initial tagging for 2008 MY G8 units will begin on Thursday, January 31, 2008 and conclude on Wednesday, February 27, 2008 for monthly tagging allowances based on the January consensus.
 
If a desired pattern order is not available at gminventory.com when tagging, please check back within your monthly tagging period since the site will be updated regularly as vehicles are shipped.
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still no actual test... but by rayainsw
Feb 01, 2008 (4:16 am)
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http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Features/articleId=124607?tid=edmunds.il.ho- me.photopanel..1.*
 
"Pontiac also says the G8 GT will do zero to 60 mph in just 5.3 seconds and run the quarter-mile in 13.8 seconds at 101 mph."
 
I had previously seen the 5.3 - not the 13.8 101
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Re: Got the G8 brochure [bigelm] by qbrozen
Feb 01, 2008 (9:16 am)
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Replying to: bigelm (Jan 31, 2008 9:10 pm)

hmmmm... so does that indicate when they will arrive? If first shipment tagging ends Feb. 27th ... does that mean something like early April in the showrooms?
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Re: Got the G8 brochure [qbrozen] by bigelm
Feb 01, 2008 (12:46 pm)
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Replying to: qbrozen (Feb 01, 2008 9:16 am)

January's batch will start to appear in dealers beginning of March (timeframe is 4-6 weeks), so yes.... we can predict that February's will appear late March, early April. I have a fully loaded Ignition Orange tagged. - Should be showing up first week of March. It's an AT but we'll see if I decide to wait for an MT.
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Re: Got the G8 brochure [bigelm] by qbrozen
Feb 04, 2008 (8:02 am)
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Replying to: bigelm (Feb 01, 2008 12:46 pm)

ok... so when they say first shipment, they don't mean the first boats or something.(?) So the real first shipment went out in Jan?
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Re: Got the G8 brochure [qbrozen] by bigelm
Feb 04, 2008 (11:04 am)
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Replying to: qbrozen (Feb 04, 2008 8:02 am)

The first shipment has arrived in California and are now going through Customs and put on transport truck to their respective dealers across country.
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Re: Got the G8 brochure [bigelm] by qbrozen
Feb 04, 2008 (11:33 am)
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Replying to: bigelm (Feb 04, 2008 11:04 am)

good to know.
thanks.
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There's a red G8... by andre1969
Feb 05, 2008 (8:20 am)
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making the auto show rounds. I saw it at DC and again at Philly. I swore that if I ever bought another new car, it would be something more economical. But I have to admit, that new G8 is seducing me.

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