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Sedans Pontiac G8 2008 Pontiac G8
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Replying to: paisan (Jan 21, 2008 3:42 pm) Perhaps GM is attempting to sell On-Star, except IMHO it is not a substitute for an effective Nav system especially when you consider the cost of a yearly subscription. Besides I prefer controlling what I want when I want it and not through an external voice system such as On-Star. I currently have built in nav in a Caddy and an external Magellan that I use in my truck and wife's car. The Magellan has fewer quirks and is much less costly than the built-in. Now you can buy a Magellan, etc. nav system that is just as functional as a OEM system for only $400. Actually it is far more functional as it can be used by the driver or passenger to query the system while the car is in motion. The downside to an add-on is that they normally don't have dead reckoning which tracks location by speed and gyroscope when a GPS signal isn't available as in a tunnel or in a city with tall buildings. If the mfrs want to protect against liability yet make their NAV functional then put an interlock in that allows the passenger weight on the seat to make the system operational when in motion. I despise having to stop my Caddy to use the NAV to find the nearest hotel or rest..
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Replying to: surrfurtom (Jan 25, 2008 5:15 pm)
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Replying to: nojets (Jan 26, 2008 9:29 am) Same old story...that's why the competition is killing them. Regards, OW |
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Replying to: surrfurtom (Jan 26, 2008 8:13 am) I won't let the lack of GPS stop me from getting a car but it's just something that would make it a complete package IMO. -mike Motorsports and Modifications Host |
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Of the G8 pace car during the Rolex 24 at Daytona. Nice looking car  -mike Motorsports and Modifications Host |
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I agree, these should be options. Personally, I couldn't care less about either; but that's just because I don't need em. Lot's of folks want these features and it seems GM is missing out on lots of option dollars by not making them available. I read that the Holden model has nav, but the screen is too low in the dash to meet U.S. regulations  therefore wasn't made available on the G8. I would imagine the lack of Bluetooth has something to do with the car being engineered/built in Australia as well. Interesting "updated" 2008 mileage numbers for the GTO; I averaged 20 mpg in daily driving in my 04 A4. I would expect my mileage in a G8 would be 15-20% better than the GTO. Another advantage over GTO mileage will be running on regular instead of premium. That's the equivalent of getting 7-10% better mileage all by itself. |
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| Now we just have to wait for the assumed embargo to end, and we should be getting some detailed, semi-real world info on this puppy. | |
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From the “Getting To Know Your 2008 G8” booklet: “6-Way Power Seat Adjustment (if equipped) The power seat switch is located on the outboard side of each front seat. • To move a front seat forward or rearward, move the switch forward or rearward. • To adjust the height of a front seat, move the switch up or down. • To tilt the position of a front seat, move the switch in the desired direction.” Also: Seatback and Lumbar Adjustment The recline knob and lumbar adjustment knob are located on the outboard side of the seatback.
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Replying to: rayainsw (Jan 30, 2008 12:31 pm) |
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“. . its actually a 10-way seat. You'd think they'd advertise that, huh?” A discussion of G8 marketing ( so far ) I expect will be fruitless. Your point regarding the seat adjustments may be valid. I have yet to see the actual ‘slick’ G8 sales brochure – though I understand that some dealers do have them. I do recognize that there are significant difficulties with launching a car when it is produced overseas & shipped here across the ( wide ) ocean. Yet it seems to me that GM \ Pontiac could have learned a thing or 2 about the logistics of such a launch from the GTO and from the many other import models launched each year. Some potential buyers may well see this car at an upcoming auto show, grab a brochure & reject the G8 out of hand based on a quick scan of features list. Possibly discarding the G8 due to: No integrated XM. No HUD available. 6–way instead or 8 or 10 or 12-way adjustable seats. Or some other item(s) that some potential buyers want \ need, And that are missing at launch . . . Crossing the G8 off any list of potential purchases based on the ‘check-list’ sort of preliminary evaluation seems a bit superficial & unfair – but I have actually “worked” a few auto shows here in Atlanta. And I have seen some ‘interesting’ reactions from people after spending just a few seconds in a front seat or scanning a window sticker. One challenge for marketing of the G8 GT \ V8 ( I mean no disrespect in any of my posts regarding the V6 version – it is just not of any interest to me ) is that some people are likely to look at the GT as a ‘cut rate’ BMW 550i. And some will see it as a BMW ‘wannabe’. I hasten to add immediately that I see no way that GM \ Pontiac ( or any manufacturer ) can provide ** ALL ** of the goodness built into a $58K+ MSRP BMW, for something in the low $30K range. In the acceleration category, it appears ( darn the embargoed actual times various publications will likely release in a few weeks ) that the G8 GT will be quite close to the BMW 550. The trunk is larger. The seats have what I see as ‘adequate’ adjustability – for me. The key goal of marketing the G8, it seems to me, ought to be to convince people to go to a dealer & drive one. I believe that most first year sales of the V8 version will be sold based on dynamics ( acceleration, transmission behavior, handling, ride, etc. ) and the interior being ‘good enough’. However one defines that. Does this mean that bringing ( ‘rushing’?? ) the G8 to market, without items that some want or need, is a mistake? I do not know. I expect that the 2009 model year ( whenever that starts for the G8 – soon?? ) may bring one or 2 of these items. Is it a mistake to launch with so few G8s ( V6s or V8s ) that many dealers will not have one. Possibly for months. And then, smaller dealers ( like where I bought my last Grand Prix ) may see only a very few for the whole rest of calendar 2008. Again, I do not know. Pending Edmunds ( and everyone else’s ) reports & my own opportunity to test drive one, the jury I still out on whether or not this will prove to be My Next Sport Sedan. And it appears that with a relative few at dealers, it may be somewhat difficult to find somewhere to test drive a GT \ V8 – anytime soon. I drove about 200 miles ( round trip ) to test drive the first Grand Prix GXP delivered to a dealer in Georgia. Because I wanted to test drive one, right then – and make some decisions. Right now, although I am very, very curious – I can wait to make a decision. For those who have been waiting for a RWD V8 Pontiac, and want or need ( lease ending soon, etc. ), I can see ( and I have read ) a level of annoyance & frustration with this whole situation. We shall see how this plays out. How initial sales go. Etc. Sounds like these should actually appear at ( some ) dealers within 30 days or so. As I have said here before, I applaud GM \ Pontiac for bringing what appears to be a very good, V8 RWD Sport Sedan to market. I am watching with great interest, but no great urgency. . . - Ray Will drive some distance again, if required, for opportunity to test . . .
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