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according to Edmunds ( launch )
by rayainsw
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Jan 18, 2008 (4:54 am)
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http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=124400
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Re: according to Edmunds ( launch ) [rayainsw]
by tom17
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Jan 18, 2008 (5:24 am)
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Replying to: rayainsw (Jan 18, 2008 4:54 am)
Wow !!! The Edmunds atricle claims that 50% of the cars enroute are the GT !!! If that is true there should not be a shortage of the GT. Hopefully no add on stickers either.
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supply \ demand \ sales...
by rayainsw
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Jan 18, 2008 (5:33 am)
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A agree that whether or not some Dealers try to sell G8s for $$s above MSRP may be a factor. And that initial supply may not meet initial demand. And allocation to Dealers. And even wait time for \ after an order.
Yet the Corvette C6 has endured all of these. And still sells in decent numbers – for such a specialized ( and relatively expensive ) car.
Will some dealers try to sell G8s for over MSRP: Almost certainly the answer will be ‘yes’. At least initially. Given the current state of franchise law in the US, there is almost nothing GM \ Pontiac can do about that.
Some buyers ( still ) order without a test drive. Foolish though that may be.
There is currently a “waiting list” at most BMW dealers for a new M3.
Although we will not know for some time if we are already ( by the ‘official’ definition ) in a Recession, there are clear signs that our economy has some trouble. And sales of cars like the Corvette, that are discretionary purchases, are impacted earlier rather than later.
Will demand for a G8 GT be impacted? We just do not know.
We could speculate endlessly here – but I am just waiting to see how it plays out.
- Ray
Interested, but not obsessing . . .
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Re: diesel Re: TQ Re: G8 vs comp [paisan]
by mr215
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Jan 18, 2008 (6:42 am)
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Replying to: paisan (Jan 17, 2008 2:17 pm)
I'm sure the plastics will be better but if they are not I think you have to look at the whole package. If plastics are your primary concern perhaps you should get a passat or IS250 for the same price as a G8. You say $30K as if that is a high price for a car of this caliber. When the Lucerne CXS costs about $36k and the 300C costs about $37k and the 335 costs about $36k I would say $30k for a full size G8 that outpowers all of them isnt too bad, even if the plastics arent of A8 quality.
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Re: diesel Re: TQ Re: G8 vs comp [mr215]
by captain2
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Jan 18, 2008 (6:42 am)
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Replying to: mr215 (Jan 17, 2008 1:05 pm)
the 300C/G8 are anything BUT 'domestic' vehicles so it is difficult for me NOT to like them! If you want to send your money to Canada/Mexico/Germany buy a Chrysler. The 300 V8, at least according to CR, had some teething issues with the rear suspension and tranny, but has improved of later (CR 08 Auto issue) as you note to a 'recommended' status. The one thing that remains, of course, is that horrendously cheap interior - I can't imagine anyone construing the 300 as a 'luxury' anything. At least the Genesis seems to meet that 'luxury' definition that should go with that $40k pricetag and also meets that 'demand' for that 350hp RWD big sedan. Obviously, from what I've seen in pre-release publicity it sure appears to me that that 'little' Korean mfgr. has 'one-upped' both Chrysler and GM.
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Re: diesel Re: TQ Re: G8 vs comp [paisan]
by mr215
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Jan 18, 2008 (6:44 am)
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Replying to: paisan (Jan 17, 2008 2:17 pm)
I'm sure the plastics will be better but if they are not I think you have to look at the whole package. If plastics are your primary concern perhaps you should get a passat or IS250 for the same price as a G8. You say $30K as if that is a high price for a car of this caliber. When the Lucerne CXS costs about $36k and the 300C costs about $37k and the 335 costs about $36k I would say $30k for a full size G8 that outpowers all of them isnt too bad, even if the plastics arent of A8 quality.
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Re: diesel Re: TQ Re: G8 vs comp [captain2]
by mr215
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Jan 18, 2008 (6:48 am)
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Replying to: captain2 (Jan 18, 2008 6:42 am)
1. The Genesis is 4 years newer than the 300 and should be better
2. We all know GM nor Chrysler nor Toyota can exceed Hyundai in bang for the buck. If you think the Genesis whips the 300/G8 in value you should compare it to the GS350 or M35 since they are far more expensive.
3. Until we know final pricing on the Genesis we need to hold off on saying how its totally superior to the G8. The starting price is likely to be $29,995 but with options I suspect it will hit $40k or more. The G8 tops out at about $34k which isnt bad at all.
4. Chrysler upgraded the interior of the 300 for 2008 and it seems to be a little more luxurious. I agree the base model 300 is pretty spartan but the loaded interior with nav and tortoise shell trim isnt all that bad.
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Re: diesel Re: TQ Re: G8 vs comp [circlew]
by white6
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Jan 18, 2008 (8:29 am)
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Replying to: circlew (Jan 17, 2008 12:39 pm)
Exactly...drove an SRT-8 and nice grunt but decided on BMW.
I would love to drive a BMW that was the size and had the power of a G8, but it would cost far more than I could afford. I guess that's the point; The G8 appears to have more than adequate quality, plus the size and performance I desire at a price I can easily afford.
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Re: diesel Re: TQ Re: G8 vs comp [white6]
by paisan
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Jan 18, 2008 (8:35 am)
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Replying to: white6 (Jan 18, 2008 8:29 am)
The G8 appears to have more than adequate quality, plus the size and performance I desire at a price I can easily afford.
This is what we are all hoping for, myself included. I could definitely see one of these in my driveway IF and this is a BIG IF, the quality is up there.
-mike
Motorsports and Modifications Host
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Re: diesel Re: TQ Re: G8 vs comp [paisan]
by mr215
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Jan 18, 2008 (8:52 am)
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Replying to: paisan (Jan 18, 2008 8:35 am)
so you plan to base your decision solely on how hard the interior plastics are? to each his own, but that seems like an arbitrary matter to use as the main factor in your decision. Other than plastics I cant imagine what you are talking about when you say "if the quality is there" because GM's build quality is as good as anyone else's. Also, the GTO had a great interior so I would think that bodes well for the G8. BTW, what full size V8 cars in this price range do you consider to have acceptable quality? I'm not sure what standards you are using for the G8. Are you using $30k cars or the 5 series? I've been in the 2007 G35 and I can tell you I found nothing earth shattering about the interior materials. They were OK but not as good as what you find on VW products. If the G8 is even close to that than it should be OK in the eyes of buyers.
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