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Pontiac Grand Prix, Pontiac G8, Future Vehicle, Sedan
#382 of 1278 Re: not made in US??? Re: predictions Re: too little, too bad [rayainsw]
Dec 18, 2007 (5:05 pm)
I stopped by my dealer (Kirkland, WA). They claim they will have a base G8 in the showroom within 30 days .He did not have any of the G8 collateral available, only some generic Pontiac mag that featured the G8 on its cover. Availability of the first few models was tagged for March, at which point he would have a GT model in the showroom. The first shipment of G8's was claimed to contain only 800 for distribution to all Pontiac dealers.
He warned me that the car would be in "high demand" and that it would be hot! I could see the $$$ signs dripping from his eyes.
The interesting point is that he claimed his dealership had an allocation of only 20 GT models in the 2008 model year, and that only because they are the leading Pontiac dealer in the PacNW (the latter is a factual claim). So, does anyone know what the production volume for the GTs is expected to be? The numbers would argue no more than 15,000. Can anyone confirm or rebut?
#383 of 1278 Re: not made in US??? Re: predictions Re: too little, too bad [shaig]
Dec 19, 2007 (4:11 am)
Look at the GTO history. 15,000 would be a lot. Judging from the Lambda 3 CUV's distribution in their first model year, expect to see price gouging from this import.
Nothing new, really.
BMW's will look like a bargain vs. the G8 in '08!!
#384 of 1278 production
Dec 19, 2007 (5:32 am)
They have announced production of 40k-50k cars which isnt a lot at all. The Grand Prix sells far more than that although many of its sales are to fleets. I would think this car will be selling very close to MSRP for a while.
I read that the first shipment of cars has left Austalia already. They have already run print ads in magazines so I am thinking you will see cars on lots by the end of January. I just want to know when it will be tested by magazines.
#385 of 1278 Re: production [mrsyj]
Dec 19, 2007 (8:05 am)
My dealer is allocated one (Central NJ) due in Feb/March). Many will buy this without a test drive which is not a good policy.
I will wager that when the dealers do get in their measly allocations, the MSRP will be exceeded by a few grand, as was during the advent of the GTO.
#386 of 1278 Re: production [circlew]
Dec 19, 2007 (8:15 am)
probably the same thing will happen when the new Solstice was released in 06...many dealers that had one on the lot wouldnt even let you test drive it.....and all were sold for MSRP or over........wait a few months for the frenzy to subside...then order it......thats what Im doing with the CTS......will order this spring....and dealers are giving me near invoice if I order....and charging close to MSRP if buying off the lot..because they can.......and people are willing to pay it to have the first on their block!
#387 of 1278 Re: production [pao]
Dec 19, 2007 (9:20 am)
Exactly! You know the story of the Solstice...sold like hot cakes after that Donald Trump Apprentice episode.
Now, they are rotting on the lots!
#388 of 1278 Just hit the Net...
Dec 19, 2007 (9:43 am)
General Motors' Holden manufacturing plant in Adelaide, South Australia is now running at full capacity producing the Pontiac G8. The plant — which produces the Commodore model under several brands, including Holden, Vauxhall, Chevrolet, Pontiac and soon to be Daewoo — is currently producing 620 vehicles a day.
GM expects about half of the vehicles made at the plant will be for export, something Holden has been wanting. "For 60 years, we have been producing world class vehicles primarily for the Australian market. That market has developed into one of the most crowded in the world with almost 50 brands now competing for a share of only 1 million new vehicles annually," GM Holden chairman and managing director Chris Gubbey told Just-Auto.
Gubbey continued: "GM has recognized Holden's expertise and has entrusted the design and engineering of the group's large rear-wheel drive cars to us."
The G8 is expected to hit Pontiac showrooms in the first quarter of 2008.
That about sums it up...limited supply = higher price.
Dec 19, 2007 (10:53 am)
waiting is definitely a good idea because the early cars will command premium prices. I dont think demand will fall off like the Solstice because this isnt a niche car at all. If the car does well I'm sure they will increase production next year to meet demand but even if they do this car will be low production by Grand Prix standards. The good thing for Pontiac is that they likely wont have to do much advertising, the people who want this type of car will know about it.
#390 of 1278 Re: Just hit the Net... [circlew]
Dec 19, 2007 (11:07 am)
Does that say limited numbers? I'm not so sure. My math tells me that's over 6000 Commodores for export per month. That's 72,000 per year. I guess the question is, how many of those are for the US? I suppose 30k-40k is limited by GM standards, but those aren't numbers I think should command a premium, personally.
#391 of 1278 Re: Just hit the Net... [qbrozen]
Dec 19, 2007 (11:56 am)
I suppose 30k-40k is limited by GM standards, but those aren't numbers I think should command a premium, personally.
They shouldn't but if dealers follow the GTO strategy, the same fate awaits, IMO. GM does not hold the cache for a limited edition sedan and never will.. all shell games aside. You can jack the price up based on limited supply just so far in a market flooded with other choices in this price range. Like the CTS, it's easy to shop Infinity, Lexus or BMW when the price gets too high.