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Re: Britain Gets The Good Stuff [holdenguy] by holdenguy
Apr 18, 2007 (5:02 am)
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Replying to: holdenguy (Feb 28, 2007 8:04 am)

This will make you all, especially Rocky, sick in the guts.
Those bloody Poms are not only getting the HSV R8, it also comes there with a supercharger option!
Boosts power up to 540bhp.
I cannot believe this, we do not have that option here and the price for them starts at 35,000 pounds.
It is cheaper to buy in Britain than it is to buy them in the Country of origin. HSV here are selling that Turbo Astra hatch here that the Poms developed, so maybe a bit of dealing got done between the two GM sisters.
The link below is the 1st look at the HSV on Top Gear.
They don't drive it yet, just talk about it.
It is at 3 minutes 35 secs into the vid.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjnSjyVRr7Q&NR=1
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competition... by rayainsw
Apr 18, 2007 (8:13 am)
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So – I was thinking this weekend about a test drive I took some 18 months ago. I was looking quite seriously at a supercharged & inter-cooled Jaguar S-Type R.
 
OK – First: I am NOT suggesting that the G8 will compete directly with a $60K+ Jag S-Type R.
 
I do find some statistical comparisons very interesting – since before I decided on ordering my 2007 Corvette, I took an S-Type R for a 36 hour test drive, at the insistence of my local Dealer’s Sales Manager. ( Oh, please, don’t throw me in that briar patch. ) And I was rather impressed.
 
The S-Type R, for those not familiar with this Jag, is a 4DR sedan, has Approx. 400 HP & TQ, driving the rear wheels through a six speed automatic trans. ( ZF )
Jag Wheelbase = 114.5 in. ( G8 = 114.8 )
Jag Overall Length = 193.1 in ( G8 = 196.1 )
Jag Width = 81.1 ( G8 = 74.8 )
  
And the Jag weighs
( short drum roll )
just over 4,000 lbs.
 
Hmmmmm.
 
So – I re-read the several posts I wrote immediately after that extended test drive.
( The sales manager & I ended up about $3K apart on a negotiated price = “no deal” - sigh. )
 
Anyway, the dynamics of that 4,000# Jag sedan were surprisingly well managed. The eCATS suspension system likely had much to do with that, though the Holden \ G8 reports I have read so far suggest that Holden has produced a well sorted chassis as well – though clearly not as complex, or expensive as the Jag’s. The Jag’s weight distribution I believe to be approx. 52\48. Not bad. And the G8’s quoted numbers are similar, as I recall.
 
Now the 3.0L V6 version of the Jag lists for just under $50K. So again, this is clearly NOT a direct G8 competitor – nor a fair comparison. But in this context, any number in the mid-$30Ks for a well equipped G8 V8 begins to sound very attractive & rather aggressive. Depending on many things – not least the actual quality ( fit & finish & materials & ergonomics & sound isolation, etc. ) of the final, production interior – as well as the chassis & drivetrain dynamics. . . the G8 ‘could’ prove quite a bargain.
 
And if ( ** IF ** ) the recent rumor of an actual October introduction prove accurate, I’d expect ‘long lead’ press introductions in June or July – and published tests of production G8s to appear in September.
 
We do live in ‘interesting times’ . . .
At least I find it interesting.
- Ray
Still very interested to see what the G8 V8 dynamics will be, as well as interior & exterior fit, finish, etc. . . .
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Re: competition... [rayainsw] by holdenguy
Apr 19, 2007 (5:07 am)
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Replying to: rayainsw (Apr 18, 2007 8:13 am)

These are direct quotes from "Wheels" magazine here in Aus with regard to interior & exterior fit.
 
"The interior is designed to hide fit and finish issues that traditionally you'd be able to see," explains Holden design director Tony Stolfo. "Things like chamfer design-it's part of the aesthetics, but also hides the visual gap between the pad and the glovebox."
 
Some words below about the exterior.
When American Denny Mooney replaced German Peter Hanenberger as Holden boss, he came determined to focus on the perceived quality of the VE.
"We tore up the car two-and-a-half years ago," Tony Stolfo says. "We threw out millions of dollars of tooling to get the gaps down on the car from 3.5 millimetres to 3.2, from 3.2 down to 3.0. We wanted it to be the best in the world, in terms of achieving the perceptual quality."
 
I hope this helps a little rayainsw.
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Re: Britain Gets The Good Stuff [holdenguy] by holdenguy
Apr 19, 2007 (5:53 am)
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Replying to: holdenguy (Apr 18, 2007 5:02 am)

Maybe Rocky could have his wish come true.
Surely you could order one through your Pontiac Dealer.
 
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,21433649-5012441,00.html
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Re: Octane, Australia Re: A few things [elias] by holdenguy
Apr 19, 2007 (6:00 am)
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Replying to: elias (Apr 15, 2007 5:21 am)

Coming soon in a Caddy.
 
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,21392627-5012441,00.html
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kudos to Holden by elias
Apr 19, 2007 (6:24 am)
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Holden is awesome. The fit/finish on my GTO-naro is incredible - reminds me of a previous car: 2000 Benz E320. Those who have been in the car say "wow, this is an american car?".
And the car is rock-solid-reliable. Mightily impressive, and absurdly fast.
#189 of 1265
Re: kudos to Holden [elias] by holdenguy
Apr 22, 2007 (6:19 am)
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Replying to: elias (Apr 19, 2007 6:24 am)

SS Commodore takes on the 300C and Falcon GT.
 
http://editorial.carsales.com.au/car-review/2279205.aspx
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Re: kudos to Holden [holdenguy] by holdenguy
Apr 22, 2007 (6:28 am)
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Replying to: holdenguy (Apr 22, 2007 6:19 am)

Article on the VE SS Commodore with some nice pics as well.
The photo that shows close up of speedo etc shows the menu list of the trip computer etc.
It works exactly the same way a nokia phone works.
Enjoy
 
http://editorial.carsales.com.au/car-review/2271243.aspx
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Re: kudos to Holden [holdenguy] by holdenguy
Apr 22, 2007 (6:42 am)
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Replying to: holdenguy (Apr 22, 2007 6:28 am)

This one's for you Rocky,
Your dream wheels mate!
 
http://editorial.carsales.com.au/car-review/2298050.aspx
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Re: kudos to Holden [holdenguy] by rockylee
Apr 22, 2007 (10:35 am)
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Replying to: holdenguy (Apr 22, 2007 6:42 am)

Well mate, that car is bloody fast. I heard a 7.0 LS-7 will be a option. It also has Delphi adjustable Magnetic Ride Control which is a slick feature. If it had the "gadgets" like a 5.1 Surround Sound System I'd might buy one. I like the Holden, styling better than the Pontiac grill though.
 
Rocky

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