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big "duh" here: Lutz on chasing BMW. He says they benchmarked BMW on the structure and tuning, and Audi on the interior. Based on my experience with both of those brands, I would have done precisely the same. This is all hopefull. Problem with GM recently though, IMO, is that while they have produced some appealing cars that certainly update their image as being real contenders, most have been also-rans in their classes and not the TKOs I think they need to take back share (G6 leaps to mind immediately). They have produced some things that are "as good as" the competition, or there abouts, and seem to want to trade on price. My thought is that, for at least a stretch of five years or so, they have to produce clear class winners consistently, and trade on price as well, in order to really reverse the tide. And what's with these long stretches (IMO) to market? A car based on existing architecture with major parts-bin applications and yet we won't see it until early next year? With a Camaro that won't arrive until, what, a year after that? Late August. That's what it ought to be, late August says I...  Remember 90's Chrysler before DCX, and their 24-month concept to showroom successes? C'mon General, you're getting so close!
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Replying to: wale_bate1 (Feb 14, 2007 10:32 am) I assume the G8 cant be sold her sooner do to crash and emissions certifications and other regulatory stuff.
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Replying to: rayainsw (Feb 14, 2007 9:03 am) Sounds to me you need a 502 hp G8 GXP after the HSV-grin That will be available probably in 2009'  Rocky |
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Replying to: 1487 (Feb 14, 2007 10:59 am) I'm assuming that's a great part of the equation, but I also think there is a corporate process adding some man-hours here.
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Replying to: wale_bate1 (Feb 14, 2007 12:21 pm) Actually, I'm assuming that's only a small part of the equation (just how different emmissions-wise is the 6.0l V8 compared to the LS2 in the old GTO?). Personally, I think the internal corporate BS process is at fault here more than anything else. GM just CAN'T get new product to the market efficiently enough. |
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Replying to: rorr (Feb 15, 2007 11:36 am) 
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Replying to: rorr (Feb 15, 2007 11:36 am) Also they haven't finalized the body panels yet I think. They are going to still be refining it through the summer. -mike
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Replying to: wale_bate1 (Feb 15, 2007 11:51 am) Was today YOUR turn to be the 'good cop'?
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Replying to: paisan (Feb 15, 2007 12:10 pm) Yes. They must be TESTED. But it's not like the new engine is a clean sheet of paper design. If anything, I'd imagine the MDS system would make emissions testing easier. The point isn't whether the new engine/vehicle must be tested but how LONG such testing/certification must take? Particularly when other manufacturer's seem to get through the same process quicker with designs which ARE all new..... |
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anxious to see the non "show" version, should still be a good looker and quite the 4DSC with the GT's V8. Can't wait to take it for a drive. -Brian |
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