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Re: Chevy Caprice [cracovian]
by quietpro
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Jul 17, 2009 (10:51 am)
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Replying to: cracovian (Jul 16, 2009 7:15 am)
At the risk of going political, health care is the key difference that is leading the domestics elsewhere while foreign brands thrive. Notice that the foreign brands set up shop in the south where labor laws are more conducive to non-union (read no health care) labor.
Things may change in time to save American auto manufacturing but only time will tell.
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Comparing G8 GTs
by jlaszlo
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Jul 17, 2009 (12:54 pm)
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Trying to decide between a fully loaded GT (sports, premium and sunroof) and a GT with no options. I could care less about leather seats, power seats, sport pedals, etc) but do care about a leather steering wheel and if the 18" wheels look too small on the car. I would like a sunroof but it's not a deal-breaker. The price difference between the two cars, after taxes and discounts, is about $2500.
I noticed on the option packages that the Sport package lists a "leather wrapped sport steering wheel." Does it look or feel different than the standard GT steering wheel? Also, do the 18s look appreciably smaller than the 19s? I believe they're the same design.
The only remaining GTs in Atlanta have both option packages so I haven't seen one without them to compare. A dealer out of town has these two cars in stock so I'm doing this semi-blind. Thanks
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Re: Comparing G8 GTs [jlaszlo]
by quietpro
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Jul 17, 2009 (3:54 pm)
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Replying to: jlaszlo (Jul 17, 2009 12:54 pm)
I haven't seen a non-leather steering wheel but I did ask. The non-leather steering wheels have the basic soft/foam/rubber coating around the entire wheel. On mine, the perforated leather is definitely noticeable. On the left side of mine, the pin holes are a little noticeable (may have been stretched a little too tight?) but it's not a problem. I definitely prefer it over the standard wheel, though. I think you're forgetting the leather shifter, as well. Another plus that I would definitely want.
I don't know that the 18s look much smaller but the design is noticeably different. I don't exactly LOVE the 19" wheels but the 18" wheels are not for me (not sure why...maybe they look "dated" to me?). The 19s are smooth surfaced where the 18s have an indented surface on each spoke. You should be able to see both on the Pontiac web site and decide.
Overall, the added extras make the car look a bit classier, in my opinion. Either way, though, I think you'll really be happy with it. I love mine.  
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Re: Chevy Caprice [quietpro]
by whoosierdaddy
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Jul 17, 2009 (6:53 pm)
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Replying to: quietpro (Jul 13, 2009 11:50 am)
Bob Lutz reversed himself today and said the G8 is gone and will not reappear in any form after all....that must have been an "interesting" meeting with Fritz. So anyone who wants a new G8, get one while you can. I like mine a lot so far; however prices of parts unique to this car (which is most of 'em) will only get more expensive and less readily available.
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Re: Comparing G8 GTs [jlaszlo]
by bowtiefan1
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Jul 17, 2009 (8:22 pm)
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Replying to: jlaszlo (Jul 17, 2009 12:54 pm)
I have the base GT. It comes with a leather steering wheel. The steering wheel on the base GT is all solid leather, where the wheel on the premium package is half solid leather and half perforated leather in the 3 and 9 positions. I actually like the solid leather wheel better. I'm not crazy either about the perforated leather that comes on the seats with the premium package. I think a solid leather would have looked better. Nonetheless, I prefer cloth seats over leather as I think they're more comfy/cozy. As for the wheels, I have the 18's. They look very proportional to the car in person and I'm very happy with them. As far as the shift knob, it is not leather on the base GT, but plastic. I replaced mine with a leather shifter and it's a very easy switch. If you can get a good deal on a base GT, I would not hesitate doing so, you'll be very happy and can always upgrade with the sport and premium items later.
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Re: Comparing G8 GTs [bowtiefan1]
by quietpro
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Jul 17, 2009 (9:08 pm)
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Replying to: bowtiefan1 (Jul 17, 2009 8:22 pm)
I'll second bowtiefan1. I intended to suggest that you could upgrade your base GT with most of the parts that come with the two upgrade packages and likely have money left over. You could then choose aftermarket wheels that you might like better than the package wheels (something I'm strongly considering).
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Re: Comparing G8 GTs [jlaszlo]
by rayainsw
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Jul 21, 2009 (5:06 am)
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Replying to: jlaszlo (Jul 17, 2009 12:54 pm)
Whatever you do choose - I would not wait.
Several sources indicate that what is now
on dealer lots is all there will be...
No more inbound.
Good luck!
- Ray
G8 GT w/Sport & Premium & Sunroof...
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Re: Comparing G8 GTs [rayainsw]
by whoosierdaddy
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Jul 21, 2009 (10:14 am)
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Replying to: rayainsw (Jul 21, 2009 5:06 am)
Yes. Inventory in central-Indiana is down to 18 (mostly white, no black), and no more coming in. Glad I got mine in March when you could "steal" one.
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