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Pontiac Grand Prix, Pontiac G8, Future Vehicle, Sedan
#1239 of 1278 Re: Pontiac "styling" [white6]
May 29, 2009 (7:50 am)
The comment I get most often in regards to my G8 styling is that it looks like a 5 series. That is not a bad thing in a world of boring Camry's in accords.
#1240 of 1278 Re: Pontiac G8 Could Live On As Chevy-Badged Police Car [nojets]
May 29, 2009 (9:02 am)
Like I said, if a difference (in your case) between getting the G8 or not is the front fender and a badge then you're not serious and it's all in your head. I'm 99.9% sure you wouldn't have bought it even if it came like that. Otherwise what's stopping you from buying it as is and getting the fender conversion as you pointed out and getting a couple of stick-on badges from ebay?
I tell myself a wagon flavor with a stick would make it perfect for me but chances are slim I'd buy it anyway. Be realistic, man. It's no Aztec and you just have no cash or a true need for it.
I'm not really trying to offend you but that's how most of the consumers are: cheap, practical and mostly wishful thinkers.
#1241 of 1278 Re: Pontiac G8 Could Live On As Chevy-Badged Police Car [nojets]
Jun 12, 2009 (5:13 pm)
If GM makes this car, I will buy it on the first day. Make the hood scoop functional and I'll buy two...
#1242 of 1278 Re: Pontiac G8 Could Live On As Chevy-Badged Police Car [vinnyny]
Jun 27, 2009 (10:32 am)
I was hoping for a Chevy-badged G8 with Chevy ergonomics inside but I guess it will never be. I'm leaning over the edge right now, and will either pull the trigger or pass by Tuesday when the incentives end.
I don't like Pontiac styling and it is more than just the surface aesthetics. A Pontiac has a certain style/reputation that I've never been a fan of...I'll take Chevy style with Cadillac (or better) materials over anything. I consider myself a "regular guy" with a taste for quality. I don't particularly want a Pontiac OR Cadillac. Toyota might fit me individually but the average arrogance of it's dealers and/or owners is a huge turn off. Other foreign brands suffer the same issue to varying degrees.
So, I will also go with the stance that looks DO matter as does brand. If this were a Chevy, aside from the front-end not being an issue, I would have already overlooked the Aussie quirks inside rather than dwelling on them. It's psychological but it doesn't make it any less "real."
#1243 of 1278 some g8 thoughts
Jun 28, 2009 (12:16 am)
manual transmission is available on the lower and higher end models(holden commordore) why doesnt the g8 offer it in the GT and base models. Perhaps the market for manual transmissions are better in AUS, however me personally wouldnt buy a g8 auto :/ if i wanted to drive a automatic id keep driving my boring basic poor mans chev impala ><. I mean this car is beautiful and is pretty much what im looking for minus the auto tranny flaw :/ (not everyone can afford a gxp). O well hopefully these pick up in sales or it does get rebadged into a chev though, cuz id be damned if i will ever be a eco freak in a prius or volt.
#1244 of 1278 Re: some g8 thoughts [carstryke]
Jun 28, 2009 (4:24 am)
I can definitely see your point. I am pretty sure the manual transmission is only a performance thing these days (at least in profit margin car). The cost of automatic transmissions has come down enough that the option becomes more expensive in the way of calculating the cost of supporting two (or more) options (as you state, you're paying a premium to get the GXP). Unfortunately, it seems you either have to go large or small for a manual these days. Although, once the price premium goes away, the new Camaro could work. I would probably buy one of those now but the dealers are demanding $7K+ over the sticker. I'd love to have the newest thing on the road but not for that kind of money.
As for going eco-freak, I would definitely consider something like a Volt or other high-tech/high-efficiency option. However, it will be a second car, parked neatly beside my new G8 (which I'm leaning more and more towards). I've heard of other older generation motor heads that have become eco-crazy with hyper-miling. They now strive for maximum miles per gallon rather than the opposite. The first Prius owner our company hired was that way. That trait is in me as well as I enjoy the power of these cars but also try to maximize fuel mileage most of the time. In my current car ('06 Chevy Impala SS), I keep my display in the "Inst Economy" mode so I can continuously monitor my fuel mileage. It's taught me a few tricks at maximizing mileage even though there isn't much leeway.
Anyway, back to the manual option, I don't see it coming mainstream. There's just not enough people who actually prefer it. I once did but back problems make me want to keep my legs in the few comfortable positions I have left and that doesn't include manual shifting. As for the younger generation, they are less and less in touch with their cars so the appeal is lost on them.
#1245 of 1278 Re: some g8 thoughts [quietpro]
Jun 28, 2009 (1:44 pm)
I agree, especially with bit about the younger generation being less and less in touch with their cars. I wanna slap 4-5 of my friends upside the head who have spent $35,000-$45,000 (cdn $)on smaller to midsize suv's. Not to mention a good chunk of my friends never have and never will drive a manual tranny. As for me i will wait and hopefully gm will give me a vehicle like the g8 that i can afford that comes with a manual tranny but that is a very unrealistic thing to think :/ I guess it all boils down to vehicles are just appliances for us north americans(yes there are exceptions but to most people), the less work the better. Im pretty sure we will have couches that scratch our own butt's for us in 10 years anyways.
#1246 of 1278 Re: some g8 thoughts [carstryke]
Jun 28, 2009 (2:52 pm)
carstryke, i'd probably be driving a G8 Gt (or V6!) if it were available with manual trans.
the homologation cost for an additional manual-trans drivetrain probably no worth it for GM for such low production #s..
we're lucky to have a chance to buy the car with the 4 drivetrains they did/do homologate&offer! cheers...
#1247 of 1278 Re: some g8 thoughts [carstryke]
Jul 02, 2009 (9:15 am)
GM seems to have sort of adopted The Henry Ford approach; You can have it any way you want, as long as it has an auto transmission and a black interior. And they wonder why they're bankrupt! Give people what they want, or they will find someone who will!
#1248 of 1278 Re: some g8 thoughts [wideglide]
Jul 02, 2009 (9:31 am)
Too bad they have not adopted the Porsche 911 approach:
"Options Code: 99
Leather Interior To Sample
Includes leather trim interior color to match customer's unique color sample. (Subject to restriction - please see dealer for details; may add additional 3 to 6 months to complete order."
[[ ONLY $1,750 MSRP ]]
Happy with black & red seats in my silver G8 GT...