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Replying to: circlew (Dec 25, 2008 7:40 am) It's a shame nice people work for dealers and manufacturers who carry inferior products. The market place weeds them out sooner or later. Just like the folks who bought too much on credit. It catches up. Was it OK that I priced a G8 GT in August and it had a $3,000 MAP price tacked on to the sticker price? All's fair in Love and War, my friend. The tables have turned and it's a buyer's market now. I LOVE IT! Regards, OW Several American cars have fallen apart on me. The dealers are cocky, and don't understand "customer service", and hence why I personally wouldn't buy one unless the price was reflective of said build quality. You guys can spout numbers, and what not, but just like anything in life, perception is reality, and American car companies are percieved to be of lower quality. Kinda like that girl in school who got around, no matter how much of a "new leaf" she has turned, it's hard to shake a bad rep. I'm no fan of FWD cars, so the Camcordima doesn't really phase me. As for comparing 0-60 or rolling start straightline highway numbers of an STi to a RWD V8 is kinda dumb. However throw in some twisties and some elevation changes and those brembo brakes, awd and handling would definitely out-drive the G8. For those who are curious, this is my 3rd car, hence why the G8, STi, and a lot of other cars are in the running for my $. My 05 LGT does my daily driving, my 04 Armada tows my cigarette boat, and has gotten a ton of props from the guys towing with Ford/GM/Dodges at the boat ramps... Anyway, I'm done with this discussion, as it's both off topic and circular reasoning, we'll just have to agree to disagree on the quality of american v. foreign cars. Hopefully GM/Ford/Chrysler can pull out of this, as I'd love nothing more than to buy a car that is high quality at a good price... -mike Subaru Guru and Track Instructor
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Replying to: mrpushrod (Dec 25, 2008 9:38 am) No more GM, that's for certain. Regards, OW
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Replying to: paisan (Dec 26, 2008 4:27 pm) Also, I just purchased a G8, and love it. Depending on your tastes it makes a great car. I also got 26% off of sticker price on a new '09. That totaled about $7900 off. Plus, I love the car, did I mention that. Hopefully GM will be around long enough to handle any unforeseen needs down the road. I would hate to see them or either other make fail. It is truly sad. |
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Replying to: circlew (Dec 26, 2008 6:30 pm) No more GM, that's for certain. Regards, OW Well you had better stay away from the impreza STI too if reliability is top on your list.The Suby is rated ONLY AVERAGE for 07 & 08 according to Consumer reports. It falls short in Paint/Trim and Squeaks & rattles. Transmission troubles also plagued some of the older models. The squeaks and rattles I can attest to on the model I drove. Again, pop the clutch and listen to what is happening. You would have to be deaf to buy that car after trying that out. On the other hand the cheap Ford Fusion should be at top of your list if reliability is important as it received "Much Better Than Average" in CR for 07 & 08. The G8 is one of the tightest vehicles I have every owned. Absolutely no squeaks and rattles on any of the 4 models I have driven Squeaks and rattles are a big turn off to me. It seems that the STI is better suited for someone who can't hear (squeaks and rattles) or see (poor paint & trim). These issues are mostly impossible to fix. As far as AWD vs RWD for me it is a matter of fun and being practical. I think you can change the track around and get AWD to beat just about any RWD. That said, I drive on the street where I think RWD is more fun, plus it allows a for better a better fuel economy/acceleration compromise. It is also more reliable (all things being equal. It is interesting to see the 09 ZO6 go up against GT-R. Again, I think the test track can sway the results one way or the other. Another item I refuse to give up is neck snapping torque. STI is not even an option.
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Replying to: mrpushrod (Dec 26, 2008 9:09 pm) I am glad the G8 reports are good so far. It is the first car in years that lives up to an form of excitement for GM. Too bad it was too little too late. The mark of quality and high price finally bit them in the end. AWD is an option that works well. That's why it sells. I saw a video where a Carrera S lost to a C4S. All things being equal, it is very usable for AWD to help drivers keep control. RWD is way for fun. Regards, OW |
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Replying to: mrpushrod (Dec 26, 2008 9:09 pm)
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Replying to: beer4704 (Dec 27, 2008 7:24 am) approaching turns displayed in the DIC to be all I need... As always, YMMV. - Ray Happy  1,800 miles & counting....
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Replying to: rayainsw (Dec 27, 2008 8:28 am) That said the garmin does traffic, weather, stock, news, etc. It also has a wireless remote that attaches to the steering wheel. Still, GM should offer the Nav and sync. 16k miles on two G8s, very happy for the money.
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Replying to: mrpushrod (Dec 27, 2008 9:12 am)
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