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Now, for something completely different.. by rayainsw
Dec 22, 2008 (6:32 am)
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.. I am happy with my G8 GT.
I am happy with the Deal.
- Ray
Happy, happy, happy.....
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Re: Now, for something completely different.. [rayainsw] by mrpushrod
Dec 22, 2008 (8:02 am)
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Replying to: rayainsw (Dec 22, 2008 6:32 am)

Ray, I couldn't be happier with the G8 myself. A buddy of mine purchased a WRX STi. He quoted all kinds of ridiculous 0-60 times, handling numbers, braking distances, etc. I fixed him by taking it for a ride, only I brought my stopwatch. As it turns out, testers achieved the glories numbers with the WRX by revving the engine to redline while proceeding to dump the clutch. They rely on AWD and a wound up elastic band to achieve a good 0-15MPH time and then the wimpy 4 banger proceeds to carry through to 60. The car sounds like it is going to fall apart when you dump the clutch. Well my buddy could never achieve close what the magazines posted. As a matter of fact one magazines admitted that the car was faster with the smaller tires. Others said it was faster on slippery surfaces. The idea was not to slow the engine down too much after dumping the clutch because it has no torque what so ever in the lower RPM (4 cyl, turbo) )range. Other things to note about the STi is the cheap feeling interior, economy car looks and crappy gas mileage for a torqueless 4 cylinder and poor stopping distances.
 
I was miles ahead of him when he thought he could take on my C5 on the highway. I am sure the G8 would produce similar results.
 
So you are happy because you bought a V8 RWD vehicle for around 30k that is built and drives more like a BMW & Mercedes than a cheap economy car with a 4 CYL turbo. Seriously, there is such a difference in feel between the two cars. It is like night and day. Only one of the vehicles delivers consistent pull at any speed which is what you get when you opt for the V8.
 
Bottom line, I would have given GM an extra 10k to not have to settle for a 4 CYL that drinks gas like an 8.
 
I think Paisan has been writing GM and recommending they put a 4 CYL tubo in the GXP and Z06 and also to increase the stopping distances so he can pay 26k for it.
 
The G8 is an excellent value for the money. In my opinion it competes with cars costing 10k more.
 
Just one more comment. The prices Paisan quoted for a fully loaded g8 are plain wrong. Loaded a 2008 lists for about 33k and the 2009 lists for about 35k. I purchased both an 08 and a 09. the 30k price for the 09 is stripped. I priced it on several websites and I have my original window stickers. Some people are masters of missinformation. And he is doing it so he can drive the country into the ground.
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Gentlemen by KarenS HOST
Dec 22, 2008 (9:16 am)
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I was going to move a lot of the posts from this past weekend over to Auto News Do you favor a government loan to the Big 3?, but decided that one is going off the charts with postings and adding the off topic posts from here would be too confusing. However, if you wish to contemplate the future of America's auto industry, it should be in the Auto News forum and not here.
 
Happy hoidays and thanks for your future cooperation!
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STi by rayainsw
Dec 22, 2008 (10:07 am)
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Clearly, one can choose whatever one would like to spend your $$s on. For whatever reasons make sense to you.
 
The Impreza WRX STi seems rather a stretch to compare with a G8 GT, but whatever . . .
[ G8 wheelbase is almost a foot longer!
  Length almost 2 feet longer !!
  G8 is approx. 500 pounds heavier.
  Etc.
  These are enormous differences! ]
 
And if you really want AWD and a manual trans, clearly the G8 is a non-starter.
 
Even if the acceleration numbers ( with comparable launch techniques ) are reasonably close – the character of the driving experience is likely very different than a G8 GT. I am just really surprised that if either one really appeals to you – the other one does, too. Seems very odd, to me.
 
[ I do not want or need the complexity of AWD, and I have no desire for a manual trans – so the Subaru never was even on my radar. ]
 
If that is what you want – best of luck!
 
- Ray
Enjoy!
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Paison by cwonder
Dec 22, 2008 (1:21 pm)
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Replying to: rayainsw (Dec 22, 2008 10:07 am)

You know, I'm shocked at your outlook on dealerships and what they should be giving you when most the guys are starving right now. Just because the auto business is in trouble doesn't mean it is going away, even with a bankruptcy. With all your chest banging, I'd think you would know that. Nevertheless, as a sales associate at a dealership who sells the car in question, you are dreaming. These guys are commission only. You know what they make if they sell a new car right now??? If they are lucky, about 100 bucks. How many cars do you think they are selling right now? Take a wild freaking guess.
 
And you want a deal??? Unbelievable. If you want a deal, buy a used g8 gt. with 15,000 to 17,000 miles; they are going for about 23k.
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Re: Gentlemen [KarenS] by euphonium
Dec 22, 2008 (1:53 pm)
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Replying to: KarenS (Dec 22, 2008 9:16 am)

Karen: It has been interesting to read the tit tats because it confirms my 40 year belief that the cheapest screws out there are Preachers, Teachers, & Engineers.
 
The above three occupations were always so self centered, self important, and always knew my product better than I, or so they thought.
 
They took the most of my time, but after I sold them on my product, they stayed with me for years and we have become friends and are now labled as "good stewards of their Christian tithe".
 
Previous posts subjects: Pontiac and Subaru
 
Subaru spelled backwards= You are a bus and
 
P O N T I A C = "Poor old Norwegian thinks its a Cadillac"
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Re: Paison [cwonder] by ksmigel
Dec 23, 2008 (8:51 pm)
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Replying to: cwonder (Dec 22, 2008 1:21 pm)

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    Paison by cwonder
    Dec 22, 2008 (1:21 pm)
 
Replying to: rayainsw (Dec 22, 2008 10:07 am)
You know, I'm shocked at your outlook on dealerships and what they should be giving you when most the guys are starving right now. Just because the auto business is in trouble doesn't mean it is going away, even with a bankruptcy. With all your chest banging, I'd think you would know that. Nevertheless, as a sales associate at a dealership who sells the car in question, you are dreaming. These guys are commission only. You know what they make if they sell a new car right now??? If they are lucky, about 100 bucks. How many cars do you think they are selling right now? Take a wild freaking guess.
  
And you want a deal??? Unbelievable. If you want a deal, buy a used g8 gt. with 15,000 to 17,000 miles; they are going for about 23k.

 
In my neck of the woods, I can pick up a 2008 G8 GT with under 20,000 miles for less than 20k.
 
I will have to wait, however, because 96% of them are former rental cars, which I definitely will not buy given that they've been beat on.
 
I'm sure if I wait a year, 16k for an under 26,000 miles or so G8 GT will be more than possible.
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Re: Paison [ksmigel] by mrpushrod
Dec 23, 2008 (10:19 pm)
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Replying to: ksmigel (Dec 23, 2008 8:51 pm)

Gold commodities have been a loosing proposition for years. The only thing that has under performed gold in the last 30 years is the US auto industry. What you have to ask yourself is how would Paison would handle the situation if a prospective customer offered to buy gold off of him at a loss?
 
Picture it: you work really hard 40-50 hours a week barley squeaking by and somebody walks into your place of business and calls you an arrogant American because you won't sell him an ounce of bullion $750.
 
His argument is "times are tough", take it or leave it.
 
This country is going to the dogs because of the way we treat it. Paison is the typical American that tries every thing he can to take down his own country with ignorance. How many Americans know that Fords quality is equal to Toyota and Honda and actually surpasses Nissan. How many Americans know that American vehicles have surpassed vehicles made in Europe on quality for years. What is the gain to scare people into thinking American cars fall apart when it isn't true anymore? Some people just love to hear themselves talk; Right or wrong.
 
I have heard every engineer joke out there but engineers strive for accuracy by research. If they don't, believe me a peer will and put egg all over your face in front of your team and manager. Thats how you get ahead.
 
I once argued with my wifes uncle for two hours trying to convince him that a Cadillac CTS or even a G8 may be an alternate vehicle to his Acura TL. He has purchased Acuras for years now. He started to get mad and said the conversation is over because we would never come to agreement. This is the killer. Both his TL and the G8 were parked outside in the parking lot. Have I driven a TL before, YES. Has he ever driven a CTS or G8, NO.
 
I couldn't believe he just assumed he was right with just perception backing his argument. Myself, the first thing I would have done is asked to try the G8.
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Re: Paison [mrpushrod] by circlew
Dec 25, 2008 (7:40 am)
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Replying to: mrpushrod (Dec 23, 2008 10:19 pm)

Could be he had an American car fall apart on him in the last few years. Just like me.
 
It's a shame nice people work for dealers and manufacturers who carry inferior products. The market place weeds them out sooner or later. Just like the folks who bought too much on credit. It catches up.
 
Was it OK that I priced a G8 GT in August and it had a $3,000 MAP price tacked on to the sticker price? All's fair in Love and War, my friend. The tables have turned and it's a buyer's market now. I LOVE IT!
 
Regards,
OW
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Re: Paison [circlew] by mrpushrod
Dec 25, 2008 (9:38 am)
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Replying to: circlew (Dec 25, 2008 7:40 am)

Could be he had an American car fall apart on him in the last few years.

 
Was it a Camry???? I know Toyota was on Consumer reports unreliable (NOT RECOMMEND) list for a couple of years. Test drove one myself for my niece, we couldn't get by the crunches we heard from the front suspension. She opted for the much more reliable Ford Fusion.
 
Did you two buy an American made Camry??? Or did you by a Tundra and have a cam shaft failure???

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