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Sedans Pontiac G8 2008 Pontiac G8
1265 messages, Last post on Jul 21, 2009 at 10:14 AM
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Replying to: mrpushrod (Dec 21, 2008 1:16 pm) When I saw the MAP price the dealers added to the G8, it proves even a great car's sales potential can be ruined by the greed prevalent in the supply chain. If they want return customers, try fairness and watch buyers flock to good product. All I needed to do to get my new '08 CR-V was to negotiate like a gentleman over the internet with 5 dealers and then giving the winning bidder the business. That's how I work. No "head bashing" needed. Regards, OW
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Replying to: circlew (Dec 21, 2008 1:34 pm) I will try asking this again, what is it that you do for work??? Don't you ever deal with people?
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Replying to: mrpushrod (Dec 21, 2008 4:47 pm) For you, you enjoy fighting with a salesperson. I enjoy it to a certain extent, however when they are not willing to negotiate, and are quite rude, it shows me how the company which I am about to "invest" in conducts buisness. Have fun when it comes time to "fight" with the service writers on any repairs (and all mechanical products will need repairs eventually). -mike Subaru Guru and Track Instructor |
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The government is not going to let the auto industry go. We can't afford to. You obviously don't understand politics. Both the senate and congress got a taste of the UAW arrogance. This is just a political game. Again, I ask what is it that you do for work??????????????????????????? I enjoy the fight. As a matter of fact I negotiated below sticker for my G8. No markup even though a lot of dealers were marking them up at the time. I am confident I could put have gone into the same dealer after you and talked them down. I have bought more cars for more people than you can imagine. People seek me out all the time to handle their negotiations. I have puchased over 30 new vehicles for myself alone(I enjoy driving). I take pride in my work and always strive for best results possible. I do my homework prior to walking in a dealership. You may think this sounds like bragging but believe me it is not. It is just the kind of American I am. Being able to negotiate is the result of working hard all of my life and very rarely quitting when the going gets tough. Most of the time the salesman will hand me of to a manager or even owner as soon as the negotiation period starts. Usually after 5 minutes of chat. Sometimes I lock a vehicle and price in with just a phone call and a credit card. Again, I purchased what I wanted. I would have loved to go into the same dealers after you failed. Putting egg on peoples face is my specialty. That is how you climb the ranks in non-union American companies. You need to out shovel your peers. |
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Replying to: mrpushrod (Dec 21, 2008 5:40 pm) They had come down well below sticker on the cars I'm talking about. However they did not come down to the price level that I felt the car was worth given the current conditions. I'm sure you didn't pay $26k for your car, which is what, to me the car is worth at the present time. $30k is well below sticker, so if you want to talk about getting it below sticker, we both would have gotten it below sticker. I was a commodities trader, Gold, Silver, Platinum, Palladium. I deal with people all day long. Making deals on Millions and Millions of dollars of precious metals every day. I also own my own businesses and didn't get to where I am by not being a good negotiator. However when one has hit up several dealers and not a single one will budge, a smart person know's when to fish or cut bait. Similar to folks who were holding stock up at the top of the market, I'm sure they were just as cocky as you are. They are now crying that they didn't get out.... I haven't signed on the dotted line yet, so you find me a G8GT fully loaded (Premium, Roof, Sport) for $26k out the door + Tax (8.0% in my area) and you may have just helped GM get a sale.  -mike Subaru Guru and Track Instructor
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Replying to: mrpushrod (Dec 21, 2008 4:47 pm) Regards, OW |
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Replying to: mrpushrod (Dec 21, 2008 5:40 pm) Regards, OW |
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Replying to: paisan (Dec 21, 2008 6:01 pm) You are one of them. You should get a job as a UAW so you can afford the G8. All this talk about the American car dealers not giving you a fair deal. I HOPE EVERYONE READS PAISAN'S previous posts and realizes his foolishness. AGAIN, PAISON IS TRYING TO PURCHASE A 33K dealer invoice RWD V8 vehicle for 26K (7K LOSS) and he is blaming the dealership for not being reasonable. I DON"T THINK I CAN SAY THIS ANY LOUDER. PLEASE READ PAISAN'S PREVIOUS POSTS SO HE IS DISCREDITED ON HIS NEGATIVE WORDS ABOUT THE AMERICAN DEALERS AND CAR COMPANIES. EDMUNDS --- G8 List, dealer invoice, TMV Total with Options $34,990 $32,787 $33,587 I think I am done here. PAISAN, I thought it would be fun sparing with you but now I realize you are just out of touch. You should really rethink your profession too. I invested in GOLD years ago. Gold has trailed just about every other investment you could have made for the last 30 years. And I have the 30 year old coins to prove it. Maybe I can put in a word to the UAW union to get you in.
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Replying to: mrpushrod (Dec 21, 2008 7:00 pm) The G8 is fine but it's still an American car whose value will deteriorate $7k as you drive it off the lot. Here's the RTS price. Mr.P, I'll bet you paid more! 2008 Pontiac G8 Sedan MSRP: $29,995.00 Red Tag Price: $29,044.46 Total Cash Back: $4,000.00 Your Price: $25,044.46* |
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Replying to: mrpushrod (Dec 21, 2008 7:00 pm) You obviously haven't read my posts carefully. In the current market conditions, where most dealers are giving the cars away to move inventory and make a sale. Now if this were a "regular" car market, then yes, my $26k offer on a $30k car would seem odd. However, a low offer in a bad market, where as OW pointed out will lose it's value at a much greater rate than any of it's contemporaries. Not to mention what good is a warranty if the company is bancrupt to begin with? Even if GM survives which it will, Pontiac will be just like Oldsmobile, long gone within a few years. So as a trader and investor, I would be pretty dumb to invest into a company/brand/etc that is on the verge of going out of business! On a side note, you have also not read my posts because no where do I ever mention anything about a FWD car. I've never owned a FWD car (ok, well that one Ford Escort for 2 months in 1994) so you won't see me over on the Honda/Toyota lot. On the same day that I entered the Pontiac dealers, I also visited Infiniti, Subaru and a few other makes. Each of those I have given a "low ball" offer to, but the way in which it was received was far different, each of those came back with a reasonable counter offer, and have subsequently(sp?) called me up to try to reach a deal. That is professionalism, not the arrogance that I was met with from several Pontiac Dealers. -mike Subaru Guru and Track Instructor |
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