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Re: I'm good... [wale_bate1] by rockylee
Feb 11, 2007 (12:23 am)
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Replying to: wale_bate1 (Feb 09, 2007 4:02 pm)

I like I said in the GM forum think the G8, could of had the Holden body panels and done very well. It would of saved GM, some money also. My wish is they bring over the Holden Commodore HSV and keep all the Holden Body Panels and call it the G8 HSV. That car would not only look very sexy, but it would give Pontiac some clout and a temporary Halo car with a 7.0 LS-7 making 502 hp. I would also add the Bose 5.1 300-watt Surround Sound System I believe found on the Holden "Statesman" and of course other GM cars. I'd keep the adjustable Delphi Magneride MRC and perhaps add ventilated seats and swivel headlamps for $45K in a limited edition run.
 
The Cadillac CTS-V could move up to $50-60K and offer the potential owners a Bose a 15 speaker "Bose 5.1-7.1 Studio Surround Sound with 500 watts" Delphi's Magneride MRC adjustable suspension, 600 horsepower Supercharged 7.0 LS-7 V8, and perhaps a aluminum trim with ventilated Recaro sport seats with extra side bolstering, etc, etc, etc......This would help distinguish it from the Holden- Pontiac G8 GXP/HSV
 
Rocky
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$45k for a Pontiac? by paisan
Feb 11, 2007 (2:27 am)
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It would never sell.
 
When people think Pontiac, they aren't thinking that expensive. I bet it would be a sales nightmare!
 
-mike
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Re: $45k for a Pontiac? [paisan] by rockylee
Feb 11, 2007 (4:22 am)
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Replying to: paisan (Feb 11, 2007 2:27 am)

Well my friend you would be wrong IMHO. The Commodore HSV G8 with 500+ horsepower would be a poor mans M3/M5 and with the options I listed would out-luxury it also.
 
You and I disagree on the $45K. What if GM could keep it closer to $40k ????
 
Rocky
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Re: $45k for a Pontiac? [rockylee] by paisan
Feb 11, 2007 (4:48 am)
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Replying to: rockylee (Feb 11, 2007 4:22 am)

I dunno, it's still a brand thing. I would love it but from a marketing standpoint certain companies can't break certain price points no matter what the car has in it.
 
For instance, take the SRT8. I have a few friends who are dealers, and guess what? They have a ton of them sitting on their lots because people don't want to pay the premium for a Dodge or a Chrysler.
 
Just like an expensive Subaru, they can have all the features, power, etc. However once they break a certain price ceiling, people say "but it's a Subaru" or "but it's a Dodge" or "but it's a Pontiac"
 
I'd love to see it but I just don't see people paying out that much cash for a "Pontiac".
 
Much like the GTO. Stickered at $33k, at 33k it was "ok" at 29k it was "more worth while" at 27k it's "a good deal" at 25k "it's well worth it"
 
-mike
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Re: $45k for a Pontiac? [paisan] by rockylee
Feb 11, 2007 (5:16 am)
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Replying to: paisan (Feb 11, 2007 4:48 am)

Mike,
 
I can see what you are saying. Well I will put it this way to you pal. What are you really getting spending in the mid-40's for a SRT-8 Charger ????? You still have the very cheap plasticky interior and you only gained 80 hp. You have no manual option, the car gets a slightly tuned suspension and bigger tire/wheels but from my perspective that isn't enough. In the G8's case you'd get 140 hp, a manual option, and of course upgrades like a Delphi adjustable Magneride MRC, and of course bigger tires/wheels and perhaps some interior/exterior treatments like a spoiler or racing seats ????? Even without any interior upgrades you are getting one helluva a lot more features than the SRT-8. My buddy bought a Hemi 5.7 Charger and modified it to beat a SRT-8 and saved thousands doing it. I think he had $39K into it and that included aftermarket body panels and stuff I wouldn't of done. The SRT-8 he was looking at was going to cost him $44K ($2K? off) because they were very proud of it.
 
So my bottom line is you are getting a lot more G8 HSV by paying around $45K than some idiot spending mid $40's for a plasticky unrefined SRT-8.
 
Rocky
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Re: $45k for a Pontiac? [rockylee] by creamcitian
Feb 11, 2007 (6:10 am)
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Replying to: rockylee (Feb 11, 2007 5:16 am)

I'm with paisan. No way people most people would pay that much for a Pontiac. Perhaps bringing it here under the Holden nameplate, but not Pontiac. Yeah, I could see bringing both those cars (and maybe more) as the Holdens and then getting the kind of money they want.
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Re: $45k for a Pontiac? [creamcitian] by rockylee
Feb 11, 2007 (6:49 am)
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Replying to: creamcitian (Feb 11, 2007 6:10 am)

Well a loaded out Trans-Am in 02 would run you $38K and they sold quite well. $7K more 6 years later for a car that has 4 doors and 177 more horses under the hood and is "light years" a head in quality, fit and finish, gadgetology., and has plenty of room for (4)
 
I'm not saying Pontiac would sell 200,000 units as I said the 502 hp. version would be a "Limited Edition" model.
I think a goal of lets say 2,500-5,000 unit though isn't unrealistic.
 
I also am just speculating on a $45K MSRP. Hell for all I know they can do it for under $40K ???? I just remember reading in Motor Trend that GM, had plans to bring over a LS-7 version of the Holden HSV and assumed the cost of such a product would tip towards $45K. It might be significantly less ???? I would personally like to see such a "limited" halo car come to our shores to reinvent Pontiac's performance image.
 
Rocky
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Re: Octane, Australia Re: A few things [rayainsw] by holdenguy
Feb 11, 2007 (7:38 am)
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Replying to: rayainsw (Feb 10, 2007 2:38 pm)

So the moral of the story is, where ever the hell you are.
SPEND MORE BUCKS, GET MORE BANG!
 
Of course, the US would have to have it's own system, just to confuse the hell out of you
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Re: $45k for a Pontiac? [rockylee] by creamcitian
Feb 11, 2007 (8:42 am)
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Replying to: rockylee (Feb 11, 2007 6:49 am)

au contraire mon frair - the last gen trans-am may have had a lot of power (especially for the time) but sold well? sold so well they dicontinued the model after 2002?
 
my man, i would be the last do deny you your uber fast 4-door sedan with all the latest gizmo goodness, but as a pontiac it just won't happen (they may, over time, with all these nifty cars, be able to increase their cachet but it would take years to do that). right now they are billing themselves as performace, not luxury, and they haven't really been performace for years. first they have to get the performance then they could think about adding the luxury.
 
although, bringing over all the holden models as luxury performance in the next couple of years would be interesting - could pontiac do it? they have a lot of mea culpa-ing to do first.
 
one thing we can probably all agree on is that having this thing coming over is just really neat-o.
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Re: Octane, Australia Re: A few things [holdenguy] by creamcitian
Feb 11, 2007 (8:44 am)
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Replying to: holdenguy (Feb 11, 2007 7:38 am)

sorry holdenguy, we use the kaplow system, not the bang system like the rest of the world...

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