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#421 of 776 I fixed the door...
Jun 07, 2010 (4:13 am)
I have a 2004 that thankfully only has (had) one power sliding door. Great feature when dropping kids off at elementary school. Not so necessary now that they are older. Anyways, I used the TSB referenced in post #146 (give or take a couple posts) as a guide. Here is the link:
Because the motor still worked a little, I thought it may be the hinge so I ordered the hinge and bracket ($124 with tax) and installed them on Saturday. Still had the same problem. The cost of the motor is listed online at $840. I made the decision to turn it into a manual door which took about 20 minutes and saved me $840. If you want to go this route (while you decide whether you want to spend the money to get the motor replaced) here is what you need to do. I am referencing steps in the TSB
1. Follow step 4 - Remove end rail moulding (this is at the end of the track at the rear of the van under the back windows.
2. Follow step 5 - Remove center bracket No. 2. which is under the moulding you just removed.
3. Follow step 6 - Remove center bracket No. 1 which is at the other end of the track almost inside the van.
At this point you should have two cable dangling in front of you. They are attached to the van at the hinge and go into the upper clutch assembly for the door. you can see the full picture in step 9 of the TSB.
4. I took wire cutters and cut the two ends of the cable right at the door hinge.
5. Replace the rear bracket (it holds the moulding too.)
6. Replace the moulding.
The front hinge is optional. Save it somewhere in case you want to replace the motor.
I had a fully functioning manual door. you may want to remove the fuse for the door motor just in case somebody pushes the button. not sure what would happen then.
This may or may not work for you and I make no claim that this is a good idea. But it is an alternative to a costly repair if you can live without the power feature and seems to be working for me. Good luck!
#422 of 776 Power lift gate malfunction
Jun 11, 2010 (1:42 pm)
I have read many of the posts on the passenger doors but have not seen anything on the power lift gate. My problem is the rear lift gate will start going down but then will reverse itself as is something is impeding the process. I wonder if anyone else has encountered this problem. I have a 2004 XLE.
#423 of 776 Re: Power lift gate malfunction [liaison]
Jun 14, 2010 (6:08 am)
There's a recall on the liftgate. The Toyota dealer should fix it for you for free.
#424 of 776 Re: I fixed the door... [scottm23]
Jun 15, 2010 (1:48 pm)
Do you think it's hard to replace a new motor($840)? Is this something I can do at home? Where can I buy the new motor? One seller won't sell it to me because he said it's hard to install. He only sells to the dealership. Any advice would be greatly appreciate.
#425 of 776 Fix Door at Home?
Jun 16, 2010 (3:30 am)
Can it be done at home? Yes, I did it in my garage. Well, I had the whole door off and lying on the floor and could have popped out the old motor and put in the new one but chose not to spend the money. If you are only replacing the motor and not the hinge you shouldn't even need to take the door all the way off of the tracks.
Can you do it at home? Not sure because I don't know you. Although I have a "corporate job" now and don't get my hands dirty on a regular basis, my uncle owned a transmission shop when I was growing up and I worked for him summers doing engines and transmissions (and some body work) so I have above average mechanical ability.
If the idea of paying somebody to change your brakes and rotors is a foreign concept to you or you don't think twice about digging around under the hood when something isn't right then you should be able to do it.
The basic idea of the repair is to remove all the window trim, remove the window, remove the inner panel, remove the motor and lock assembly inside the door, pop out the motor, replace the motor, put everything back together. Draw pictures of wiring harness and the 5 or 6 cables you need to disconnect inside the door so you get everything back together where it goes. Draw a picture of the upper cable pulley and clutch to make sure it is installed correctly.
My opinion is that you can open and close a door manually a lot of times before it makes sense to spend $800 on something that will probably break again anyways. But, if you have small children and the door is a needed feature then it may be worth it to you.
Hope that helps...
#426 of 776 Re: Fix Door at Home? [scottm23]
Jun 16, 2010 (5:40 pm)
We replaced the upper and middle right hand side sliding power door hinge on my 2004 Sienna LE. Cost of both hinges was about $110.00. My friend and followed the TSB (Technical Service Bulletin) in post 146. We didn't have to replace the motor/cable assembly. The door started to rub against the quarter panel due to a worn bushing in the middle hinge. We did take the door completely off the van. Make sure you label the wiring and have sliding door window rolled up all the way when re-installing. I saved $500.00 in labor by doing it ourselves. My friend is a BMW auto body man. Another option is to speak to a Toyota certified body shop vs. the dealer body shop. Some dealers outsource their bodywork.
#427 of 776 Re: Fix Door at Home? [scottm23]
Jun 21, 2010 (7:33 am)
Your messages are very helpful. Thank you so much!!!
#428 of 776 Re: Power lift gate malfunction [liaison]
Jun 22, 2010 (4:26 am)
I had the same problem, check and see, mine was fixed for free at a toyota dealership, it was part of a recall! good luck.
#429 of 776 98 sienna drivers side sliding door
Jul 11, 2010 (11:06 am)
there is a stop that is only letting the door open half way, there is a cable that hooks to it and goes to the rear of the van. What is it?
Jul 12, 2010 (8:00 am)
I have a door that does not work, and have also turned it into a manual door.
I just pushed the button on the dash that makes the door manual. Why do you need to remove the motor?