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Toyota Sienna Sliding Door Problems

324 messages,  Last post on Nov 21, 2009 at 6:43 PM

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Re: Reviews of Sienna, Odyssee, Grand Caravan [travis8] by ateixeira
Dec 24, 2008 (9:37 am)
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Replying to: travis8 (Dec 17, 2008 12:13 pm)

I'll explain - you're in a problems thread, people come here specifically to discuss problems with doors. Mine are fine, while others have had problems.
 
Here are 1693 posts about transmission problems for the Grand Caravan:
 
http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.ee93e7a/0
 
If you read enough of these threads, you may end up buying tennis shoes!
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Re: Reviews of Sienna, Odyssee, Grand Caravan [ateixeira] by Violaisabelle
Dec 28, 2008 (6:13 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Dec 24, 2008 9:37 am)

I am not trying to discourage anyone from purchasing one of these vans. My goal is to bring this problem to the attention of Toyota, with the specific goal of resolving the issue. Fortunately for us, our dealer witnessed the problems, had to face the embarrassment of me not being able to drive my car away from their lot, because it froze shut and drained the battery and the service workers had already left for home. All that AFTER they thought they *fixed* the problem. The timing was perfect for us. To top it off, they have had several owners bring in their vans during that time. They, like us, are hoping the seals will fix the problem.
 
This is a safety issue. Not being able to access your babies in the back of the vehicle, or able to get them into a vehicle with freezing temperatures outside, is truly a safety issue.
 
Once again, for those wanting to make a difference, please stop by the blog. link title
 
Thank you,
 
Carol
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Re: Reviews of Sienna, Odyssee, Grand Caravan [Violaisabelle] by ateixeira
Dec 29, 2008 (10:28 am)
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Replying to: Violaisabelle (Dec 28, 2008 6:13 pm)

I agree until you mention the safety part - there is a door on the other side, not to mention a pass-through to the front. I've even had people climb in from the rear tailgate. 5 ways to exit the vehicle.
 
Major inconvenience? Yes. Unsafe? Not really.
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Re: Reviews of Sienna, Odyssee, Grand Caravan [ateixeira] by jrmac
Dec 29, 2008 (10:43 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Dec 29, 2008 10:28 am)

There are 5 operating doors for a very specific reason, safety. The van gets its safety rating based on all of the doors operating. Take away one door and the van can no longer get that same safety rating.
 
My Sienna was purchased in part by the safety rating. If this van can not live up to that rating, then Toyota should be on the hook to repair it at their cost.
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Re: Reviews of Sienna, Odyssee, Grand Caravan [jrmac] by ateixeira
Dec 29, 2008 (10:48 am)
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Replying to: jrmac (Dec 29, 2008 10:43 am)

I don't see how that's unsafe?
 
In a crash you're better off with all doors closed, locked even.
 
The van gets its safety rating based on all of the doors operating
 
That's more than a stretch. IIHS and NHTSA/NCAP give out safety ratings that would not at all be affected by a door that didn't operate properly.
 
It's very inconvenient, yes. But unsafe? How will someone be harmed by a non-moving door?
 
If it were pinching body parts, that would be a different story.
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Re: Reviews of Sienna, Odyssee, Grand Caravan [ateixeira] by Violaisabelle
Dec 29, 2008 (12:47 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Dec 29, 2008 10:48 am)

We have had THREE doors frozen shut at one time. Both the sliding doors and the back door.
 
I have, personally, been in a car accident where the front passenger door would not open because of the electronic locking system. The driver's door was hit, but the passenger side was not. We were unable to get out the passenger side, leaving us to crawl to the back to get out. Fortunately, the car did not catch fire and we got out safely. We were not hauling babies around, so we didn't have that issue to deal with, thankfully.
 
If you are unable to get back into your vehicle, in -20 to -40 C temperatures, because your doors have frozen shut, and it's nearly impossible to crawl over the front seat to buckle babies into their spots, it is a safety issue. If you have gotten into a vehicle accident, and you can't get out of your seat to get your children out of their buckled in seats, and those standing by trying to help can't climb over you to get to your children....that's a safety issue.
 
If you have a child who gets car sick and you need to pull over, it is possibly not a safety issue, but it's a very inconvenient issue to not be able to get them out of the vehicle. Yes, we carry a bucket with us and know the routine, but it's not necessary to be so inconvenienced by our doors locking us to the point we can't get out of the vehicle.
 
At this point in time, all our issues have been covered by our dealer. As I said earlier, we have a great dealership we are working with and I am very grateful for that.
 
Carol
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Re: Reviews of Sienna, Odyssee, Grand Caravan [Violaisabelle] by ateixeira
Jan 09, 2009 (11:42 am)
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Replying to: Violaisabelle (Dec 29, 2008 12:47 pm)

If that happens again, and you get hit on *both* sides, closing all 5 doors, you're in trouble.
 
Unless you have a moonroof, then you could still get out.
 
Obviously I'm teasing, but I still don't see this as a safety issue.
 
It definitely is a *major* inconvenience.
 
If you've been driving, the heat from within the car would likely have the doors unfrozen.
 
The doors on my Miata freeze every day in the winter, including today. I could tear through the vinyl top so I guess I could still save myself.
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Frozen sliding doors by slider13
Jan 15, 2009 (4:09 pm)
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We almost bought a Sienna, but in the end bought a Kia Sedona, and guess what? The sliding doors freeze shut every time it is below freezing!! This is not just a Sienna problem, although I do wonder about the comment about the compound used in the rubber seals. We still have our 13 year old Plymouth minivan (310,000k) and have not had the sliding doors freeze even once on it. Mind you, nothing on it fits as snugly and tightly either! I'll watch your blog with interest.
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Re: Frozen sliding doors [slider13] by ateixeira
Feb 03, 2009 (11:52 am)
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Replying to: slider13 (Jan 15, 2009 4:09 pm)

Knock on wood but my Sienna has been fine.
 
My 93 Miata's doors freeze shut all the time. I've had to open the passenger door, then push out the driver's door to get it open.
 
It has those tiny little art-deco door handles. Cute but no leverage to pull at all.
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Cable Problem on Sienna Sliding Door by brucehaywood
Feb 03, 2009 (12:13 pm)
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Does anyone know if Toyota is "fessing up" yet that they have a serious product flaw in the cables on the sliding door? Again, ours snapped in the mid 40's. Their customer orientation was to want $1,800 to fix it. DO NOT BUY A SIENNA

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