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RDX v. X3 by quiltingatty
Mar 04, 2007 (8:38 pm)
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Replying to: drjcool1 (Dec 31, 2006 1:01 pm)

Why do you say that the X3 blows away the RDX? I'm debating between the two.
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Re: RDX v. X3 [quiltingatty] by x3driver
Mar 05, 2007 (8:24 am)
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Replying to: quiltingatty (Mar 04, 2007 8:38 pm)

You can go back and see some posts about this debate. I bought the X3, for the reasons I posted before. But I don't think it's fair to say one blows away the other. Unless you get a bad example, you can't go wrong with either one.
 
For us, whatever was on paper didn't settle it, it was the drive that did. As long as my X3 stays reliable, I'll be thrilled ever time I get in it. (Although that "hesitation" is real).
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Re: RDX v. X3 [x3driver] by quiltingatty
Mar 05, 2007 (8:37 am)
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Replying to: x3driver (Mar 05, 2007 8:24 am)

I read all the posts on the subject. Aside from the hesitation, are there any other issues re reliability? I am going to sell my MDX for a smaller car and can't decide between the reliable Acura RDX and the unknown X3.
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Re: RDX v. X3 [x3driver] by cincyart
Mar 05, 2007 (9:09 am)
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Replying to: x3driver (Mar 05, 2007 8:24 am)

So...x3driver, you are saying that your x3 has the hesitation from a stop and
it is not an objection? Do you just overlook it ? Is it something that becomes less
pronounced after break-in ? I have not taken delivery yet, but it may be a deal breaker
for me ! I have never owned a vehicle, new or used, that exhibited this behavior. And in a BMW ?? Thought this is why they get the big bucks ??
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Re: RDX v. X3 [quiltingatty] by x3driver
Mar 05, 2007 (9:10 am)
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Replying to: quiltingatty (Mar 05, 2007 8:37 am)

I've heard both good and bad on the X3's reliability ratings. I've always stayed away from cars with less than stellar reliability. We went with the X3 anyway - based in part on the 4 year / 50K mile warranty. Also, the dealer is close to us, and has a reasonable number of loaner cars if the car needs work, and we got the BMW Assist.
 
We weighed the reliability issue, which, at least statistically, favors the Acura. But the "driving experience" of the BMW was overwhelming, to the point that even with the extra expense (it cost more) and risk, we dove in. We thought the Acura's dash and "attitude" etc was focused more on the car, and less on the drive.
 
It's all so subjective at this level, thus my quote about the choice being art, not science. All the paper numbers and statistics went out the window when we drove the two. That's not happened in other cars I've bought over the past 25 years. It happened with the Bimmer. One mistake we made, go for the preminum sound, if you go with the X3.
 
Whatever you do, enjoy the ride!
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Re: 2007 X3 hesitation on acceleration [cincyart] by markcincinnati
Mar 06, 2007 (5:19 pm)
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Replying to: cincyart (Mar 03, 2007 2:33 pm)

You ordered one, now, of course, you DID order a stick?
 
The auto versions may still have a slight hesitation, but the stick versions none.
 
Frankly, I have all but given up on the stick shift, so few people even will test drive one, and so few dealers even try anymore to move anyone to do so.
 
The 6speed BMW auto will, over time (if it is like my Audis auto) kind of learn to drive like a normal (stick) transmission, shifting when you would shift and almost never having any lag.
 
What little hesitation there is, can be further reduced by driving the car in Sport Mode.
 
I love the new X3, the new interior, the new power, etc. I wouldn't sweat the sensation you may have felt when test driving.
 
Hopefully you did extensively test both auto and manual versions.
 
Despite what you may be thinking, I am at this point, mostly in favor of the auto, as the path of least resistance.
 
Uncle.
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Re: RDX v. X3 [quiltingatty] by markcincinnati
Mar 06, 2007 (5:26 pm)
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Replying to: quiltingatty (Mar 04, 2007 8:38 pm)

The RDX is superior in almost every way, while standing still, at a stop light, when parked, etc.
 
The BMW is superior in almost every way, while driving, cornering, when moving. Not so much when parked though.
 
Drive AND park in both. Drive them both over the same test route, drive at the limit, brake the car as hard as your leg will press. Enter a turn at the maximum speed you dare, then go +10MPH faster. One car will thrill you, one will scare you.
 
Too bad the technology and audio system in the BMW is a notch or four less.
 
Get the BMW with the upscale audio package and Servotronic -- all other options are, of course, options. The nav system works great, but the RDX's is modern. In the end, they both are capable and competent. The RDX's is better.
 
There is no voice activation on the Bimmer. I miss it most on the phone system, I can dial the radio myself, mostly.
 
If you care more about how the car feels when stopped, go RDX, if you care more about how the car feels when driven, well,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,you figure it out!
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Re: RDX v. X3 [cincyart] by x3driver
Mar 06, 2007 (5:40 pm)
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Replying to: cincyart (Mar 05, 2007 9:09 am)

The hesitation is not that pronounced. It's not a stutter or anything at take off, it kind of feels more like the tranny is sorting itself out (only) under very light throttle. You don't notice it unless you are the one driving.
 
I've attributed it to the fact that the gas pedal has a very stiff spring, the drive-by-wire throttle control, and yes, ours is still very new - less than 2,000 miles. But I am staying on top of it to sort out what's up, if anything.
 
Also, and I've seen this in other "smart" cars: you can fake them out a bit if you are on the gas, off the gas, on the gas, etc hard. The car is trying to anticipate for you, and doesn't always get the dance right.
 
In the end, it always takes off when we ask it to
 
I echo the recommendation on the upgraded audio, I didn't get it, but always will, from now on.
 
One more thing..... I do believe the steering wheel phone control is voice activated... try holding the little man down a bit longer - mine speaks to me and follows my voice commands when I do that. It listens to my wife, too.
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Re: 2007 X3 hesitation on acceleration [markcincinnati] by cincyart
Mar 06, 2007 (6:01 pm)
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Replying to: markcincinnati (Mar 06, 2007 5:19 pm)

Mark, I see you are here in Cincinnati as well.
I grew up on the east side, now live on the west. As Jim Morrison said "the west is the best". I'm buying from Sweeny BMW. Titanium silver, 18" wheels.
 
I tend to go thru cycles in auto to stick, the X3 is in my auto cycle. I don't think they had a 07 stick on the lot.
 
This hesitation thing is something unexpected for me,in a BMW especially. I drove two and they both exhibited it. I will try Sport Mode, do I sacrifice anything
by driving in Sport ? Gas mileage,etc.
 
BTW, what kind of mileage on average mixed are you folks getting?
 
Mark, you have calmed my jitters quite a bit,thanks.
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Re: 2007 X3 hesitation on acceleration [cincyart] by markcincinnati
Mar 07, 2007 (7:34 pm)
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Replying to: cincyart (Mar 06, 2007 6:01 pm)

Our 2005 X3 3.0 with virtually all options is one of the best cars we have ever had. The new 2007 is much better in terms of its power and interior refinement.
 
I hope the audio response is correct, at least when phoning.
 
The issue I have is that BMW, and frankly all the Germans, are late to the modernizing game.
 
Yet, there is nothing like driving a German car, even Infiniti has yet to fully crack the code.
 
I love my wife's X3 and my A6 is, likewise, a great car behind the wheel and when riding in it.
 
You have chosen wisely if driving is of importance to you.
 
We've got the upgraded sound -- but the Acura, damn, DVD audio and even overall exceptional sound.
 
Our Bimmer, of course, has Sirius, and we love it.
 
The Nav system has never let us down but it seems so, second generation to the Acura's third and so on.
 
The BMW is meant to be driven and it rewards the driver like only German cars, thus far, seem able to do.
 
I've had 28 Audis -- we have had 2 BMWs between us. I have almost purchased an Infinti and am wondering if the NEW for 08 CTS from Cadillac will be a worthy substitute for a German car even if it is $10K less.
 
Many cars have improved so much and many of them seem hell bent to imitate the German feel behind the wheel and the Japanese features. If the Americans master these two traits, and do so in a single car simultaneously, well, we may have something.
 
Competition and the legacy costs may have darn near killed the US auto mfgr's -- but but but, perhaps competition has been good for the consumer and a new American auto can actually be the best of both worlds.

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